Primary school u-turn on mixed sex toilets

The policies are all written by The White Horse Federation which covers 32 schools thewhitehorsefederation.org.uk/our-schools Some of which are secondary schools.

The board of TWHF is very white male for a sector with many women working in it. The trustees/members has a better mix of sexes (still very white) thewhitehorsefederation.org.uk/about-our-trust/governance

This federation is where the transgender policy is coming from

....It’s not like Asda or McDonald’s have gender-free toilets so why do the school think it’s acceptable.”

Except they pretty much do. This is why 'No one agrees with this board" they aren't aware that it is happening.

'although the individual in question may have the body of a boy, they are in every other respect a girl'

This is just nonsense. What other way is there to be a girl if you have a boy's body?? And surely someone reading this would go huh? I don't understand but f it's in an official document then it must be correct...

Yes talk to other parents. I found that weren't at all interested but obviously in other schools that's not been the case!

I wouldn't go in all guns blazing. Give the office a ring/ email and say you have concerns about the toilet changes and want to discuss them with a member of staff involved in the project/ the head.

Get your questions down. Mine were voyeurism, children's comfort, sanitary facilities. If yours is relabeling traditional blocks then that's just a no no obv.

She addressed them well and in that particular situation it put my mind at rest. (I do get told off for that when I post it but at this primary school and with the way they did it I was reassured.

Anyway get your questions get your answers. Take it from there.

Our secondary school has just announced they are making some of the toilets gender-neutral, with a plan to move to almost all gender-neutral eventually.

I'm relieved to read of other cases where the decision has been overturned.

Thanks to this board I felt well prepared to put my thoughts down in a strongly worded email to the school, and also to speak up on the parents FB group where I am very much not in the minority!

although the individual in question may have the body of a boy, they are in every other respect a girl

What respects would those be then?

Why is there a separate Transgender Policy at all? This is covered under safeguarding, isn't it?

Total waffle

No probs OP :)

If 10 girls object to 1 boy in their changing room, what then?

How is having the body of a boy not relevant when talking about taking your clothes off?!!

moredon.swindon.sch.uk/about/schools-information/policies-procedures

Click transgender policy.

although the individual in question may have the body of a boy, they are in every other respect a girl and as such have the right under the Equality Act to change with the girls

Thats not what The Equality Act says, and children cannot obtain a Gender Recognition Certificate.

And that is NOT what the Equality Act says.

'Scenario 1)
My daughter doesn’t want a boy changing next to her, what if he looks at her body?
For example, in this scenario it would not be appropriate to remove the trans* person from the
changing rooms if a concern is raised by a parent or carer. In this situation, it would be far more
appropriate to look at offering an alternative changing arrangement for the child who feels
uncomfortable around the trans* person. A Human Rights response would be to state that
although the individual in question may have the body of a boy, they are in every other respect a
girl and as such have the right under the Equality Act to change with the girls and to be treated
fairly as such. It is the responsibility of members of staff to support both trans* students and
cisgender students to feel comfortable around one another.'

There is no scenario 2.

Interesting that was the only one given.

From that schools policy page

'Organisations that exist to provide support to pupils, staff and parents
The Laurels Gender Clinic www.devonpartnership.nhs.uk
Offering ongoing support to people with Gender Identity issues through the NHS
Schools out www.Schools-out.org.uk
There are lesson plans, items about LGBT History Month (February), Transphobic bullying and info
for teachers.
The Intercom Trust www.intercomtrust.org.uk
South West charity that provides local professional community support and advocacy for LGBT and
Non-Binary people and their families, and training and consultancy on LGBT and NB issues.
Gendered Intelligence www.genderedinteligence.co.uk
A community interest company that delivers arts programmes, creative workshops, mentoring,
training and youth group sessions to Trans youth (under the age of 25).
Gender Identity Research and Education Society www.gires.org.uk
National body that examines the science around gender and Transgender individuals produces a
wide range of resources for schools and other public bodies, including a toolkit on combating
Transphobic bullying and an e-learning package.
Mermaids www.mermaidsuk.org.uk
National charity that connects and supports young Trans people and their families
LGBT Consortium www.lgbtconsortium.org.uk
A national membership organisation focusing on the development and support of LGBT groups,
projects and organisations so they can deliver direct services and campaign for individual rights.
Provide a directory of agencies across the UK
The Beaumont Society www.beaumontsociety.org.uk
National society that supports mainly M2F Trans people and their families and friends
International Lesbian and Gay Association www.ilga.org
ILGA - International Lesbian and Gay Association information on international LGB&T issues'

'"It's a hard one but I understand some children are confused and don't want to go into the boys or the girls, but when they haven't got proper floor-to-ceiling walled toilets, that's my issue. Anybody can look on anybody going to the toilet, they are so low you don't even need to stand on a toilet to look over it.'

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/primary-school-backlash-after-parents-21543151

It could be one of any number of orgs.

I see no reason for the school not to say who they are. I'd have thought it would be obvious to say who it was.

Which external body is contacting primary schools and pushing this?

I wonder.

Anyhow, I thought everyone outside of this board was totally and utterly all for, 100% onside, with the TRA agenda and we are just a tiny minority, hmm, when it is put to the test the evidence speaks to the contrary.

The general public when they find out about what's being pushed by TRAs don't buy it, don't want it and, as here, won't accept it.