CPS leaves Stonewall

I hope this is a huge comfort to Little@TheBigBad.

She's shown more courage & integrity than 90% of the 'celebs' and influential people in this country for standing up for what she believes in. It's an incredible thing for a young woman to do

So good to hear TheBigBad Those toxic guidelines were one of the most outrageous bits of state sanctioned misogyny and deliberate subversion of safeguarding I've ever seen. If anyone needed confirmation of the type of people behind some of this stuff, those guidelines showcased their real motivations perfectly.

Well done to her and all the young women who are literally having to face down this male led ideology that undermines their privacy, dignity and safety.

Helpful thread from Sex Matters : twitter.com/SexMattersOrg/status/1437365481787297795

They've followed it up with a useful critique of the problems faced by those who retain the services of SW and potential conflicts with the EHRC employers' code of practice:

twitter.com/SexMattersOrg/status/1437367063434117122?s=20

I heard it on Radio4 at 3 o'clock. Have just listened to the PM headlines and it wasn't there.

Huge congratulation to your DD, @TheBigBad, and please give her thanks from me.

TheBigBad - your daughter is an incredible young woman. Thank you to her, and to you for raising a child with so much courage.

Please, sexists and homophobes, enjoy the new generation of feminists who are learning to be persistent in standing up for their rights. You earned every one of them.

Thanks BigBadDD.

Thank you for supporting your daughter in this .I hope she feels she has played a huge part in this latest news.

Aw @TheBigBad that brought a tear to my eye! Well done to your DD!

This is fantastic news, although I note with concern that Stonewall say "we look forward to continuing to work with them".

Fantastic, well done your daughter TheBigBad! The new generation of feminists are awesome!

Magdalen would be so proud of her too!

Woo Hoo. Well done BigBadDD!

bigBadDD you are amazing. Thank u so much fir standing up and making yourself heard.

As the mother of 2 dds I cannot thank you enough!

@TheBigBad Please give my thanks to your daughter for her undoubted courage for bringing that JR, it is a daunting prospect for adults let alone a young teenager. Also, all credit to you for raising such a confident and sensible daughter and for standing by her and supporting her as I can imagine that having to watch her navigate the JR process cannot have been easy for you.

to you both.

Congrats to TheLittleBigBad.

Not exactly Emma Radacanu, finacially speaking, but more important to us all.

Well done to your daughter bigbad I'm sure as I can be that her JR helped focus minds in the CPS.

Which will be hard because most of us do have some issues where we agree with the lobby or organisation, and would like those ideas to succeed.

I can't tell you how many times I've been criticised for reviewing material from organisations where somebody thought that I should have gone 'easier' on them because 'their heart is in the right place' and 'they don't understand evidence'.

No - where public understanding or public money is involved, everything should be assessed by the same standards. I'd argue the same for private, large grant-making organisations but I know less about those.

Your daughter is bloody fabulous, BigBad. You must be so proud.

Jaysmith71 Love it!

Agree Lobster. Organisations are told to consult with stakeholders so do it the easiest way they can - they speak to a vocal organisation locally. This organisation is then quick to consolidate their position as the 'go to' consultee. They may even offer to hold focus groups or organise stakeholder representation sessions - which the consulting organisation can use to tick an even bigger box - but then control participation in those sessions so other voices aren't heard.

This is good news.

Bloody well done to your daughter for highlighting the issue, bigbad!

TheBigBad to your splendid daughter.

for you - whatever is your preference.

⭐to your daughter, @TheBigBad!

My daughter brought the JR challenge to the CPS after their disgraceful 'anti-bullying' guidance that suggested she would be part of a hate crime if she complained about males in the girls loos, or didn't accept a male into a friendship group if the male had a girl gender identity.

Her case was that while the CPS was receiving this erroneous guidance from Stonewall, they could not be seen to be impartial, which was an important part of their remit as an authority of the state. It was dismissed because she was deemed to have 'no standing' because while she correctly identified that the anti-bullying guidance was completely wrong, she hadn't yet been directly abused by Stonewall because of it and would only be able to once she was. Despite the fact that Stonewall's guidance had induced the CPS to put out a document which discriminated against her unfairly.

They got away with this technicality because she did, however, force the CPS' hand and they withdrew the guidance, as many other authorities have had to do with Stonewall based errors. So they covered their arse, basically.

I told her about this today, and she grinned wide and nodded. Please, sexists and homophobes, enjoy the new generation of feminists who are learning to be persistent in standing up for their rights. You earned every one of them.

✌

Those all sound nice, but while not untrue as such it also isn't necessarily true that these groups represent the best practices, or even the community they claim to represent, and the effect has been to flatten the representation of various groups on a host of issues.

That's even before you get real corruption and power grabs.

We have to realy start to be vigilant about this, in all areas. Which will be hard because most of us do have some issues where we agree with the lobby or organisation, and would like those ideas to succeed.

Is it bad that I'm such a pessimist that I'm waiting on Sex Matters or similar to issue an update on whether there are any covert remnants such as with Ofcom?