Not one mention of women or girls

As always, worth reflecting:

Why is it more important to conform to the wishes and preferences of people born male, or those who prefer to identify as male,

over the 99% of 'menstruators' who name themselves women and girls and are very happy to do so?

Women, girls AND will cover it thanks. Add whatever is wanted by that 1%, but erasing women and treating the word as a dirty one unless it's being applied to male people?

That's just pure sexism. Not inclusive in any way.

I'm a young woman and this made me so sad. I'm disgusted at the woman saying Menstruators. How has her thinking gotten so warped?
It all felt so lame and boring as well, like if all the TRA stuff wasn't a thing it would have really been an opportunity to let women speak about this issue no holds barred, and have a laugh about it in the process, instead we get this wishy washy crap! Also wasn't the concept of Period Tents originate in third world countries because women were banished from the community, aren't they culturally appropriating women's struggles?!
Last week one of my colleagues actually leaked on a chair at work. (It was fine!) it felt so ironic what with all this going on, literally proof of what happens to us as women. My last period was hellish pain wise too, so insulted by this concept that the menz have them too.

Moonlight, I will also be complaining. I'm not a fucking 'menstruator', how demeaning.

People who bleed. I feel some free bleeding protests are in order.

I’m so relieved I’m not the only person offended by this article. I am going to complain to the BBC

It left me wondering how many women menstruating at that festival made use of that service and how many thought they were a bunch of weirdos.

What they wanted wasn't a service for menstruators (FFS), it was toilets that weren't disgusting.

Periods aren't a hygiene or a mental health issue - their actual message seemed to me to be regressive. Even men would like to be able to wash their hands after a shit.

They'll argue that transmen have periods too and so they're trying to be inclusive. But inclusive by writing 50% of the population out of existence? No. Not having it.

I really wish I hadn't renewed my TV licence the other week. I may actually see if I can cancel it.

Complain to the BBC!! And when they reply, complain again, including more info about their lousy reply. Just KEEP COMPLAINING. I think that the complaints slowly get escalated, until they are answered by a real person, not the office cat. I'm on my 3rd level of complaint re. their Laurel Hubbard article.

I was watching a football match on TV the other day and there was an advert about prostate cancer from the charity prostate cancer UK. It had the word MAN blazened everywhere. The tag line "men, we are with you". No mention of trans, no mention of "prostate havers" or any of the stuff us "cervix havers" are having to put up with. Why are women having to bend over backwards and accept our own erasure when it seems perfectly acceptable for men to be very blatant in their own advertisement?

Silencing females again

Just as we started to believe things would be different for future generations of women and girls

I've just read that too and it made me furious!!! It's outrageous, appalling and dehumanising.

My goodness, that period tent thingy looks so embarrassing!... :(

@BraveBananaBadge: it seems that Ying Lee temporarily forgot that they’re not a woman and accidentally slipped into language that referred to them as such. My trans activist friends do this all the time. One of my non binary friends keeps accidentally referring to herself as a “woman with autism”.

I’m beginning to think this might backfire on Stonewall and other anti-woman organisation. If women start groups for ‘menstruators, ex-menstruators, and potential menstruators’, for example, then TRAs would have no excuse to try to join and take over - it would clearly be a group thats not for them.
Maybe its time to start using their weapons against them, maybe we can refer to all transwomen as ‘penis-havers’, as this is language that is acceptable to them.

No to derail but similarly have just read the piece in the Guardian about vulvas - got as far as:

This is most noticeable on TikTok, where Ying Lee (*@sativaplath699), who is 24 and uses the pronouns they/them, got a huge number of hits on a post about their “phat coochie” (phat means fat; coochie means vulva), then more still (6.4m) for a witty and complicated piece to camera about “gatekeeping phat coochie culture”.
“When I was making that post, there was a trend of talking about big, juicy coochies,” says Lee over the phone from Vancouver. “And you could apply this to any body part. There was a time when it wasn’t ideal to have big thighs or have a big ass – and then it suddenly was. I guess I get frustrated that women’s bodies are only acceptable when they’re on trend. A trend can normalise you – but only for as long as that’s the trend. And whether you’re in trend or not, you’re still going to have this body.”

Not to be goady but can anyone explain how the they/them pronouns equates with what Ying Lee goes on to say? It seems... contradictory?

Time for another complaint to the Beeb, I see. Then I can look forward the the anodyne response that wholly fails to address the specific issues raises. I wonder if it’ll just be dismissive or tending toward implicit condemnation of my TERFy-ness this time.

And yet, none of these people or organisations can define 'women'. There is no alternative definition that is any use whatsoever.

So while women and girls are being described in fairly dehumanising language, I really don't know who these companies consider to be 'women'.

I recently noticed on the Sainburies website that for younger women, it's "period pants," with no mention of the word woman or female.

For older women who are dealing with leaks, they are all suddenly magically women, apparently.

Dehumanising and ageist.

It therefore comes across as a luxury problem, because instead of seeing it in the bigger picture as something that affects women in India who don’t have access to toilets, and women in Scotland on long rural car journeys, and women in Australia working in farming, women in central London where all the public loos have been closed down, women on a remote beach in Thailand etc. It just comes across as something that affects a few ‘people’ in the British Summer. It’s such a waste.

(And we didn’t even have showers at festivals in my day. Some people don’t know they’ve been born)

@Joystir59 It makes me so angry to hear young women using this term.

Yes - I wonder if they would say "I'm meeting an ejaculator later to talk about work".