Not one mention of women or girls

The title has definitely been edited.

I haven't listened to the clip, but has the text below it been edited? It's very neutral indeed no, but there's no 'people' anywhere.

I certainly won't be referring to myself as a menstruator!

Freezerbird. I have been most years over last 15 years. Tbh I cannot recall any specific discussions or talks I went to policing language so far. But last festival was 2019 and JKR stuck her head above the parapet in June 2020 and there's been no festival since then so it will be interesting to see next year if it makes a difference now the issue is more in the public domain. I feel there will be a "be nice" expectation. But I wouldn't expect to be corrected if I said "women".

When I saw this yesterday, I just knew one word would be missing. Again.

I've complained. I'll add their weasley excuse to the rest of my replies from their previous stories that fail to mention the one word that leaves them sweating - woman.

Just happened to have a glance at the Prostate Cancer UK website, no mention of people with a prostate - just men. (It's a great charity BTW)

Health care info, particularly around cancer MUST be as clear as possible so that its message reaches as many of its target audience as possible. Many may have poor English comprehension etc.

I really resent the way women are being dehumanised to pander to a tiny section of the population. I don't want to be called menstruator, ciswoman, cervix owner etc. I am an adult human female ie. WOMAN!

I'm not entirely sure it's the BBC you should be angry with. The BBC reported what the women in the clip said- they didn't put those words into their mouths.

I agree with others that there's an element of snowflakery there. Re menstrual cup- why can't it be emptied and rinsed out with a bottle of water? And/or take a supply of the largest/ thickest pads. If there's really nowhere to get rid of used ones stick them in nappy disposal bags. People take babies to festivals and seem to manage to change nappies.

Thank you for posting this, I have complained too.

FreezerBird - I saw that post too earlier - before the poster commented about the problems. Then the post was shut down.
Another place I can't say how I feel now - I wouldn't dare anymore.

Cannot believe woman calling themselves 'menstruators'!!! Just stop!!
Why is it that women are having to be inclusive all the flipping time??
I guess it's being kind isn't it??

This article was shared in a facebook group associated with a festival I sometimes go to. The blurb by the OP referred to 'people who menstruate' and one commenter was taken firmly to task for asking (a la JKR) 'do you mean women?'.

Another commenter posted a couple of times about her concern about this language actually being EXclusive - of those with learning disabilities or not speaking English. Interestingly no-one engaged with that commenter AT ALL while merrily arguing with the commenter who'd initially made the 'do you mean women?' comment.

They were so desperate to use inclusive language that they can't see (or don't care) that they are potentially excluding vulnerable people.

At least no-one was told to die in a fire I suppose.

Would people with a Y chromosome be called "ejaculators"? I wonder just what the backlash would be if that was tried as a way to refer to men

Yeah I'd probably have to get some wipes to wipe it after use for these few days but it's a festival...everything is a bit more inconvenient at a festival. So I don't even get the value of this news piece in the first place.

Although tbh the BBC didn't use 'menstruators' or any such language themselves, that was only used by the people from one specific organisation - one which only exhibits at 'Shambala' festival....I think we probably could have guessed what kind of terminology that could be.

I've also complained to the BBC. Thank you to all the posters on these boards ( and also ironically to the TRA posters) reading your posts and the websites and information you have pointed us lurkers to has been a revelation.
Yep I'm another one radicalised by Mumsnet and I'm off to meet friends for coffee to peak them too. I've donated to legal funds, joined pressure groups and emailed my MP and now I'm complaining to the BBC. Thank you feminism board contributors for helping me see this. As they say once you see it you can't unsee it and you can't leave it others to speak up.

Is this the new "I don't see race"? Careful, BBC, we can see you.
Being a human female isn't just about menstruation, pregnancy and menopause, nor the actual or perceived potential to do any of those things. Women and girls (protected characteristic of sex) can also be differently affected by other protected characteristics, notably faith, race, disability, age. Sex is a characteristic that has to be visible.

If women start groups for ‘menstruators, ex-menstruators, and potential menstruators’, for example, then TRAs would have no excuse to try to join and take over - it would clearly be a group thats not for them.

That won't work, I've heard plenty of TRAs argue that TWs have periods, which, like all female only experiences, have now been refined and stretched beyond all recognition so that TW can pretend we have something in common. I've heard TW claiming to be on their periods when what they seem to be describing is diarrhoea. We've all heard about TW doing things like pretending to be pregnant so they can join women only groups, I don't think pretending to have periods will deter them. Whatever it is we have/do they're just going to pretend they have/do it as well in order to barge their way in and the world will sit back and let them because male privaledge is the most pervasive and unstoppable force on the planet.

I agree - when they referred to 'risking your safety or mental health'?? Is it really that hard managing a period at a festival?! i usually hate the term snowflake but ffs, for those of us who grew up with those mattress-like pads in our teens and no such thing as period pants or bloody moon cups, it’s all just so unnecessary. So you don’t want to take your moon cup for a weekend? Use a fucking tampon like everyone else.

Oh yes what us menstruators - (autocorrect knows that’s not even a word and wants to call us men’s tractors!) - what we really need is a tent where we can paint faces onto Y fronts and cry onto someone’s shoulder because obviously we’re all overly emotional twats struggling with our pesky hormones. Fucking “menstruators need a clean sink” indeed. Women need a sink. Most men don’t bother to even wash their filthy hands. Anyone who’s having a period is clearly a woman. Any non-binary person who is female can do the mental gymnastics to work out if it refers to them or not - why should the rest of us have to?

The issue is poor toilet facilities in general at festivals!

That was to alias....I cannot quote to save my life...!

I too agree you might be on to something...