James Esses Case - Evidence-based therapy

they would be the as they would have also been raped so they need that help and support, domestic violence refuges - they would also be there as they are escaping domestic violence. They deserve the help and support they need when in that situation. Anyone threatening other service users should be removed.

So what about if the counsellor is a male who identifies as a woman and the traumatised rape victim doesn’t feel they have the option to say no but who is retraumatised by the contact with the counsellor.

Is that ok with you anaily?

And if the crisis centre is run by a male who identifies as a woman and has put in place policies that any woman who rejects a male who identifies as a woman as a counsellor should be ‘re-educated’?

That ok too?

The Wii spa, whoever exposed themselves should be charged and dealt with as any other person who exposes themselves.

And anaily can you describe how women and girls know the difference between a male who identifies as a woman ‘exposing’ themselves and or not?

anally Gender critical means people are critical of gender stereotypes and in favour of people being free to dress and behave as they wish, to sleep with who they wish, to be gay, straight, bi, whatever. As someone said earlier you just need to read the phrase - especially the critical bit.

Anyone can ask for any dr, if one can be provided then great, but it's not always possible. I've read stories where patients ask for white drs, if none are available then there isn't much to do. If i don't like the person doing my intimate exam i simply ask for another appointment with a different one that i feel comfortable with. It's never been an issue.

Please stop using racism to prop up your arguments. The situations are absolutely not comparative. Only activists with limited critical thinking skills perpetuate this.

And a woman who wrote to a hospital to request a female to do her mammogram because she was a rape victim recently found out her letter was used as an example of hate and transphobia.

Considering also that some trusts had policies that if women complained that a male was in their female hospital ward, they were to be ‘re-educated’

This is an indication that groups absolutely think that this is an ‘issue’. Considering the outrage that adding the six words that specifically stated female rape victims absolutely had the right to request a female examiner, how much longer will females have this right.

Your racism is showing by the way.

While raising tens of thousands, that money could be used to help improve lives, yet it's being used to get a guy back into his course, because feminism?

It is not a good look telling women how to spend their money. Or to try to shame them for spending their money supporting people they choose. I am confident in the amount of charity work I personally do in my community. Including directly supporting others.

If you look at the crowdfunders they are very small donations from a huge number of people. Good that you acknowledge that though, we have had posters tell us our causes are funded directly from US interests. Even one poster who went through the financial records of one of the charities to produce …. Nothing.

But crack on.

How is putting money into religious lawyers who have spent their entire life fighting women's rights going to help feminist?

It really seems that activists are very focused on purity. And you seem to think that barristers in the UK have all the freedom in the world to choose all their cases.

No that any of that matters. I would rather have a barrister who had proven they can win a wide range of cases versus one who has been deemed ‘pure’ enough.

Even ones where they disagree with the beliefs of their clients!

Imagine choosing one who fits the ‘pure’ test to discover they are not actually very professional. They might even spend time on a parenting forum admonishing women and may even publish books.

Those in Ireland have already lost that right?

Anyone can ask for any dr, if one can be provided then great, but it's not always possible. I've read stories where patients ask for white drs, if none are available then there isn't much to do. If i don't like the person doing my intimate exam i simply ask for another appointment with a different one that i feel comfortable with. It's never been an issue.

You answered my post of

Do you understand that ‘body autonomy’ also means that the patient needs to have full disclosure of the risks of the treatment they are about to undertake?

Can you explain how a young teenager can understand they are signing up for the highly likelihood of life limiting and potentially shortening treatment? Please link us up to evidence that they understand this. Can I suggest a great place to start is the ‘evidence’ presented by the Tavistock and GIDs at the Bell vs Tavistock case. You can see exactly what evidence there is that an under 18 year old has 100% the capacity to do this.

With…

By a lawyer that has been trying to remove women's rights (abortion) and children's rights (gillick) his entire life, once you check the lawyers history get back to me.

So… his ‘entire life’. Your reliance on hyperbole is apparent again. Just like your weak attempts at distraction.

Was this barrister allocated these cases by their chambers or sought them? Do you have proof that the barrister had any choice in taking the cases you specified.

If not, you are merely accusing a barrister from doing their job. Well done.

You are funding religious people who have dedicated their life to removing rights. That's something i don't want to be associated with, you are free to fund such people.

This is more of that misinformation and prejudiced generalisations. You know that generalisation of this type is actually against the posting guidelines. You keep doing and you will probably start getting deleted for making such outlandish statements.

anaily do you think it's OK for victims of rape and sexual assault to ask for a same sex medical examiner or therapist after an assault? Because according to the CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre its transphobic to do so, they are bigoted and need "re-educating". They have actively campaigned for change to prioritise trans rights over rape victims rights and in Scotland if the new gender recognition act goes through women will lose the right to request an adult human female as there medical examiner. Shocking.

Do you think hats OK?

My opinion: prisons - they can be held in their own cell

Right, but that's not going to happen. It's ''against their human rights'' to have no access to vulnerable women. They ''need'' to be validated by mingling with women (according to the MoJ judicial review). Funnily enough, mingling with other transwomen doesn't scratch that itch 🤔

There should be a trans wing in the male estate, and they can keep them safe in the same way they keep other at risk prisoners in the male estate safe.

domestic violence refuges - they would also be there as they are escaping domestic violence. They deserve the help and support they need when in that situation. Anyone threatening other service users should be removed.

It's all well and good saying that problematic people can be removed, but what about the women that will avoid going in the first place if the refuge is mixed sex? The women who will avoid rape crisis centres because they'll be called a transphobic bigot if they ask to be dealt with by a natal woman?

Of course trans people deserve help and support, but policies that put women off seeking the help and support they need isn't the answer.

The Wii spa, whoever exposed themselves should be charged and dealt with as any other person who exposes themselves.

Do you mean "expose" as in get naked in a nude spa? How are these people dealt with? What specifically are you advocating - zero consequences, or something else?

It's genuinely painful watching certain posters fail time and again to answer questions about things they claim to believe yet can't explain, and questions asking them to simply clarify their own thoughts on their own statements.

It's very eye opening.

I first came here expecting the "other side " to take the opportunity to present their argument, maybe acknowledge any problematic areas and try to put across a coherent example of what specifically they think and what they are trying to achieve, define any confusing terms or concepts so we can all be on the same page when we discuss. I have very rarely seen it. Trans men who have posted here tend to just say they keep out of all the politics and they just have plain old gender dysphoria.

I started posting here because I saw glaring contradictions and conflicts and wanted to know how they fit together. It seems that other posters are equally confused but pretend they're not, and clearly aren't bothered by that, even when it increases risk to women and girls.

I couldn't live with that. Be sure of what you (general you, not anyone specific) believe enough to explain it, or acknowledge that you don't know how to reconcile conflicting beliefs. And we all see when you go for the lazy deflection or insult.

And don't you think it's rather transphobic to confine a trans prisoner to their cell, 24 hours a day, even if they are a rapist. Much safer to keep female prisons single sex.

I’ve just donated to Jame Esses case because I care about children suffering from gender dysphoria and want them to get the best possible psychological and medical care for them rather than simply affirmation without investigating underlying reasons

MMA sports are dangerous by nature and should be outright banned imo. The individuals involved can assess the risk and choose not to fight.

And if people cannot accurately assess their risk because they are unaware their opponent is a MALE, their consent is effectively negated.

If you really cannot accept that people choose to play these sports that is your issue and you should not be conflating your non-sports agenda with the significantly increased risk of allowing males into the sport.

That is classic distraction and misdirection.

Just answer whether or not you believe that males should be competing against females in a category where the female expects to only be competing against another female with female physical limitations.

Do you or don’t you?

You don't have the best reputation anywhere.

You're on the side of this - www.terfisaslur.com

I'm OK with my reputation. I'm not on the side of people issuing rape and death threats.

It's becoming more and more clear how uninformed you are about the safeguarding issues around what's been mentioned.

Prisons 'held in their own cell' - what all the time, for their entire incarceration period? What about leisure time, meals, exercise? Should they have a warden with them for every second they are with the female inmates?

Rape crisis centres - many women have talked about the extreme triggers they have around male voices and bodies after being raped. They need single sex spaces. Transgender people who have been raped of course deserve to access services but not at the expense of the wellbeing of women who need single sex spaces. Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre no longer offer any single sex spaces. At all.

Domestic violence refuges are mostly used by women and children. Many safeguarding rules in domestic violence refuges revolve around not letting males into such buildings, to protect the women and children who have sought refuge there.

Wi Spa incident - the police initially said there was no crime. It was only when the man's past came to light that anything was done. What if a sex offender has no previous conviction? The argument by TRA's was that, had it been a transwoman exposing themselves, it wouldn't have been the same as it would have been a 'lady dick' (not my words).

You don't have the best reputation anywhere.

Dude, I can't talk for the other posters on this board but I don't give a shiny shit if people think badly of me. I'm judging the hell out of everyone who ever put a man in a women's prison, rape shelter, shortlist or toilet. Who wheedle, cajole and finally threaten women who don't shut up, #bekind or ignore reality.

And I'm judging the hell out of you, little man. We see you.

Going back to the thread theme, he is well on the way to meeting his stretch target. It's gained ten grand since I last looked. That must have only been a couple of days ago.

The other thing is that james' legal team is impressive. Its difficult to know what cases to back, but a good legal team is always a good sign.

While raising tens of thousands, that money could be used to help improve lives, yet it's being used to get a guy back into his course, because feminism?

It's protecting our children from an ideology that would sterilise them and have them on hormones for the rest of their lives for liking the ''wrong'' fucking toys and clothes, or for being gay or lesbian.

You don't have the best reputation anywhere.

Want to talk about reputation? How about the people that threaten to murder women, punch women, stab women, curb stomp women, bomb women, rape women, post porn at children, victim blame 9yo victims of a sex offender in the name of ''trans rights''? But sure, some women got thrown out of a pub by a bigot, burn the witches 🙄

So you believe trans prisoners should be held in solitary confinement and trans people should not be allowed naked in places where women and children are present?

I’m quite surprised by some of those responses.

Well I see my posts about actual, you know, real life experience have been completely ignored.

My opinion: prisons - they can be held in their own cell, rape crisis centres - they would be the as they would have also been raped so they need that help and support, domestic violence refuges - they would also be there as they are escaping domestic violence. They deserve the help and support they need when in that situation. Anyone threatening other service users should be removed.
The Wii spa, whoever exposed themselves should be charged and dealt with as any other person who exposes themselves.