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Jolyon - not satisfied with telling women about gender now defines their ethnicity

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nettie434 · 12/09/2021 00:05

Tonight after Emma Raducanu's victory Jolyon has tweeted

When they're white the Express loves immigrants.

twitter.com/jolyonmaugham/status/1436219230815404035?s=21

I am seething. She is very proud of her mixed heritage. Before the match, the commentary team were talking about how Emma and Laylah Fernandez both come from diverse backgrounds. But Jolyon doesn't bother to check any facts, just assumes she is white Angry

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NecessaryScene · 12/09/2021 08:33

You do have to admire the circular logic some people construct in their heads.

"I think people don't like immigration because they're racist. People aren't attacking this immigrant, who I think is white. That just shows how racist they are".

(And it's possible there's an extra circular loop in there where he assumes she's white because people aren't being racist.)

Makes me dizzy just working through it.

I guess it helps understand why he "brain swoons" at Judith Butler, when you see what is own internal though processes look like. Grin

Thank goodness we've got proper QCs working on all the cases we're crowdfunding...

Jaysmith71 · 12/09/2021 08:27

And I have no idea what people who 'look white' are supposed to look like. One of the good things about being British is that no one gives a stuff about your ancestors. Boris Johnson is partially Turkish. Iain Duncan-Smith is one-eighth Japanese. Ed Miliband is insufficiently Belgian.

Do Not Care.

WeeBisom · 12/09/2021 08:27

This seems to be a habit of middle class , white male lawyers. I once went to a woman in law event and some arse of a QC snottily commented that the event wasn’t diverse because “all the women were white .” He had completely missed the three Asian and mixed race women in the picture. Oh and of course he was a white guy. I have no idea why these guys do it but it makes them seem idiotic.

AnyOldPrion · 12/09/2021 08:17

I know nothing about her and the situation, but my immediate reaction is that she doesn’t even look white in that picture he’s attached. I think he’s thoroughly lost the plot and am amazed that there are people still championing him.

FrancescaContini · 12/09/2021 08:17

He’s a nasty misogynistic racist. I loathe this man. What exactly has he achieved with his life so far??

What an incredible achievement for such a young woman - I am in awe of her. I hope she will be a great role model to girls and women everywhere.

merrymouse · 12/09/2021 08:12

He obviously hasn’t followed the story, but I don’t understand why he wouldn’t quickly Google her before tweeting.

merrymouse · 12/09/2021 08:08

He could have made a different point about the Express only supporting successful immigrants, but instead he makes a rather racist assumption that her parents must be white. Confused

OvaHere · 12/09/2021 07:48

The only interest he has is in using her to slag off some papers. Because he's looked at a pic and thought oh yeah I think she looks white.

Yep. Just an opportunity for him to virtue signal to the crowd. I don't know how someone could watch that amazing bit of sporting history (assuming he did) then that be what you want to tweet first.

Jaysmith71 · 12/09/2021 07:30

I see no evidence of hostility to Mo Farah, Jofra Archer, Izzy Wong or the Porter sisters.

NiceGerbil · 12/09/2021 03:38

I had read a fair bit about her parents and background.

He obviously has no interest in her or her massive achievement. What an arsehole.

NiceGerbil · 12/09/2021 03:37

Just had a bit of a look through recent posts.

I can't see anything about her being the first UK woman to get to grand slam final in 40ish years.

No comment on her winning.

The only interest he has is in using her to slag off some papers. Because he's looked at a pic and thought oh yeah I think she looks white.

He has zero interest in her massive achievement or her as a person at all.

It's totally shit.

NiceGerbil · 12/09/2021 03:30

Bloody hell.

That's really bad.

TedImgoingmad · 12/09/2021 01:14

I've not heard or read a single bit of commentary about Emma's race. He's basically starting a race row, and when people respond, he'll say, "See, told you so, they're obsessed with race."

Cailleach1 · 12/09/2021 00:35

Despite people pointing out that she is half Chinese and half Romanian, he is still motoring on with the ethnicity he is assigning to her. Sure, JM seems to think he can declare who is a woman and who isn't; to women. So why not declare a woman's ethnicity for her too.

Riding on the coat tails of the capable and talented Joanna Cherry gave him the appearance of having a credibility which he does not in reality possess. In my very humble opinion.

Melroses · 12/09/2021 00:34

I think he lives in his own world.