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Jolyon - not satisfied with telling women about gender now defines their ethnicity

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nettie434 · 12/09/2021 00:05

Tonight after Emma Raducanu's victory Jolyon has tweeted

When they're white the Express loves immigrants.

twitter.com/jolyonmaugham/status/1436219230815404035?s=21

I am seething. She is very proud of her mixed heritage. Before the match, the commentary team were talking about how Emma and Laylah Fernandez both come from diverse backgrounds. But Jolyon doesn't bother to check any facts, just assumes she is white Angry

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teawamutu · 13/09/2021 14:37

@DoubleEx

God he’s such a massive fucking bellend.
Every Jolyon Maugham thread ever, in a nutshell.
Kotatsu · 13/09/2021 12:10

it's all a bit ridiculous anyway, about a Brit. I scratch the surface of a majority of families and you'll find relatives from elsewhere within a couple of generations in my experience.

Sure, as far as I know, mine are all European, so quite close to the UK, but both of my grandfathers were immigrants, and my son was born abroad so is only British by descent, and we live in another country again.

Hattie765 · 13/09/2021 11:59

Tbh it's just heartbreaking this young girls ethnicity is even a topic of discussion.

Jaysmith71 · 13/09/2021 11:51

Emma's ethnicity will inevitably impact her earnings.

Just as Naomi Osaka has made a very large fortune, far more than she makes from tennis, out of Japanese endorsements, so Emma will have access to the Chinese market. She speaks Mandarin and will clean up.

KimikosNightmare · 13/09/2021 00:01

You may find this amusing,@LazyViper

That was cringemaking.

NiceGerbil · 12/09/2021 23:55

I doubt he knows she was born in Canada.

He's glanced at a pic in a newspaper made assumptions and that's it.

Maduixa · 12/09/2021 23:43

Emma was born in Canada and came to the UK when she was two. Jolyon Maugham seems like a whole racist idiot; maybe he just assumes that Canada is a white country and anyone who is allowed to be born there and to have Canadian citizenship is white?

NiceGerbil · 12/09/2021 23:12

He doesn't see her as a person. Her accomplishments are of zero interest to him.

I assume he looked at the picture with male gaze and thought well that's pretty appealing. And then put that the papers interest in her was to appeal to male gaze.

He's a massive hypocrite.

PersonaNonGarter · 12/09/2021 22:26

That man is such a spoon. Endlessly.

Didn’t he say he wanted to slide into Shon Faye’s DMs at one point? Hmm

DoubleEx · 12/09/2021 22:24

God he’s such a massive fucking bellend.

Cailleach1 · 12/09/2021 22:23

JM, nor JR -Ewing

Cailleach1 · 12/09/2021 22:16

How dehumanising is he? ER has achieved such success and looks so joyful in those wonderful pictures. A young woman (just) who has won fairly in a competition with other women. No cheating by being a kitted out engine in a push bike race.

What a sneery git JR appears to be. Dunno, would he be cheering a male bodied contestant who won against women and girls? If one were honest cynical, one might say that it seems he can't be bothered seeing her as a full person. Just a load of rot about her ethnicity and sneer about how they took her picture. Urgh.

NiceGerbil · 12/09/2021 20:52

Loads of people calling him a tit in the responses.

And pointing out that Romanian polish etc immigrants are white and not popular amongst certain sections of society.

NiceGerbil · 12/09/2021 20:49

All he sees is an attractive young woman who is apparently white. No interest in her massive success. The fact that she chose between tennis and another sport (I think it was Motocross) as she loved and was brilliant at both but it was a point where one needed to become the main focus.

That she took her a levels 3 months ago and got really good results maths economics not sure what else.

That she is the first qualifier to win a grand slam ever! And she didn't drop a set all the way through.

That to get there she must have incredible drive determination etc.

That her confidence is incredible for her age.

Etc etc.

He just sees a pretty white girl (?) and uses her to make a cheap point.

He really is a tosser.

TedImgoingmad · 12/09/2021 20:07

@LazyViper

The Left intelligentsia considers their own ultra race-consciousness as non-racist, which is mindblowing. If articles don’t mention race (because it’s irrelevant to the majority of people?) it’s seen as proof they are irredeemably racist. There can be no way back from the spiral of impurity.
You may find this amusing, @LazyViper
Freespeecher · 12/09/2021 18:48

Adil Ray's been making a few point-scoring tweets too. Why we can't we just enjoy the success of what seems to be a likeable, well-adjusted 18 year old? Hope she's allowed to just focus on playing without various activist types and groups trying to bag her for their own interests.

MoltenLasagne · 12/09/2021 18:13

I mean there are so many amazing things about her story - didn't drop a set, came back after her troubles at Wimbledon, had only been training part time whilst doing her A-levels - yet instead he just uses her as a tool in his vendetta against a newspaper he dislikes. Soo woke Jolyon.

MoltenLasagne · 12/09/2021 18:09

That's a funny way of saying "Congratulations Emma - what an incredible win"

yourhairiswinterfire · 12/09/2021 18:08

Someone responded: "She is a beautiful young woman - really pretty as well as amazing."

and Jolyon replied: "The choice of photo was also telling."

Am I missing something? The photo is one of Emma, a tennis player, standing on a tennis court, beaming proudly, holding a tennis racket.

What's ''telling''? The fuck is he on about?! Confused

Callixte · 12/09/2021 17:48

There was a short feature on this on CNN Europe as well. They interviewed Leylah’s father, who is from Ecuador. Her mother is the daughter of Filipino immigrants. And of course, Emma’s mother is Chinese.

But, I suppose that just as this Maugham character seems to consider himself uniquely qualified to decide who’s female, he’s also uniquely qualified to decide who is white.

RoyalCorgi · 12/09/2021 16:05

Isn't the Express very pro-Brexit? Don't they support the pro-Brexit view that we should have more (mainly non-white) immigrants from the commonwealth and fewer (mainly white) immigrants from the EU?

That's its reputation, yes. However, it's no longer the reality:

www.pressgazette.co.uk/gary-jones-express-long-way-as-paper-surprises-with-climate-change-campaign/

TheWeeDonkey · 12/09/2021 14:35

What does this man do other than cull foxes and troll on the internet?

LazyViper · 12/09/2021 13:28

The Left intelligentsia considers their own ultra race-consciousness as non-racist, which is mindblowing. If articles don’t mention race (because it’s irrelevant to the majority of people?) it’s seen as proof they are irredeemably racist. There can be no way back from the spiral of impurity.

FreeBritnee · 12/09/2021 13:17

It reminds me a bit of when Owen Jones didn't give a shit about JKR Rowling (in fact he slagged her off and said she made herself a 'martyr' as an abuse victim) and then the very next day used her to have a go at The Sun, who had put her abusers story on the front page.

These men don't give a fuck about women until they can use those women to advance their own profile and agenda.

Yep.

nauticant · 12/09/2021 13:08

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twitter.com/jolyonmaugham/status/1175393407402950656?lang=en

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