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Transgender fighter wins debut after choking out opponent in second round

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OvaHere · 11/09/2021 12:44

www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/transgender-fighter-wins-mma-debut-24960681

Picture pretty much says it all. Horrifying that this is allowed.

Just last week an inquest concluded into the tragic death of a female MMA fighter whose family felt the fight was mismatched and this was an actual female opponent.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9962521/Female-kickboxer-26-died-blow-head-Fast-Furious-fight.html

Allowing males to compete in the female category makes an already dangerous sport so much more dangerous.

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NotBadConsidering · 11/09/2021 13:29

I’d love to hear from our regular posters how they can justify an ex special forces soldier choking out a woman in the name of equality and inclusivity.

RedDogsBeg · 11/09/2021 13:26

That picture is worth a thousand words.

Utterly fucking disgusting this is allowed and when the inevitable happens and a female fighter dies as a result of this all the TRAs and their simpering allies, which include women, will just shrug their shoulders and say "So what, we don't care" because they don't.

Nomoreusernames1244 · 11/09/2021 13:20

What I find shocking is the 'stop trans genocide' shirt that Alana was wearing. In a world of actual race- based genocides and systemic oppression of women around the world, this self-indulgent 'political' gesture is abhorrent

I was about to comment on this too. Maybe I need to “educate myself” 🙄, but what genocide are they referring to? I am not aware of any mass killing of trans people? It it from the same data source which cites an incredibly high suicide rate with no actual data to back it up?

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 11/09/2021 13:15

It is abuse.

Yamayo · 11/09/2021 13:15

Incidentally McLaughlin is 38 and only started MMA training early this year. And she's already choking opponents.
But no, there are no physical difference between trans and natal women... Hmm

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 11/09/2021 13:14

an inquest concluded into the tragic death of a female MMA fighter whose family felt the fight was mismatched

That was such a traumatic incident. I don't know if this is a one-off incident or a signal that the 'governing body' of the sport needs to reconsider some of their criteria for matching bout opponents.

The women were matched appropriately for weight. Weight isn't necessarily a decent proxy for power but it's typically the way that it's done. What would be a useful option?

As for the other bout - it's one thing knowing that MMA tends to be flirting with the boundary of 'anything goes' but I'd no idea that choking is permissible. I'd have thought that is desperately dangerous and likely to result not only in immediate but occult harm (something that turns up in later life).

Yamayo · 11/09/2021 13:11

There was a very gushing article in the Guardian about Alana, who joined the US Navy Special Forces to try to fit in as a man after growing up in a very religious household.

Apparently their opponent had said they didn't mind a fight against a transwoman. Provost said she was used to training against men 'to improve herself'.
Seemed she didn't mind it in real fight situations- wonder what she thinks now?

What I find shocking is the 'stop trans genocide' shirt that Alana was wearing. In a world of actual race- based genocides and systemic oppression of women around the world, this self-indulgent 'political' gesture is abhorrent.
I bet the Twitter woke crazies loved it...

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 11/09/2021 13:08

was it an archive link ending in .is? Mumsnet automatically hides posts with that suffix now.

Thelnebriati · 11/09/2021 12:50

I just posted links to the archived versions and my post has been hidden.

Thelnebriati · 11/09/2021 12:50

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