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Transgender fighter wins debut after choking out opponent in second round

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OvaHere · 11/09/2021 12:44

www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/transgender-fighter-wins-mma-debut-24960681

Picture pretty much says it all. Horrifying that this is allowed.

Just last week an inquest concluded into the tragic death of a female MMA fighter whose family felt the fight was mismatched and this was an actual female opponent.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9962521/Female-kickboxer-26-died-blow-head-Fast-Furious-fight.html

Allowing males to compete in the female category makes an already dangerous sport so much more dangerous.

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Artichokeleaves · 11/09/2021 20:27

@KittenKong

And now fox is clapping them on the back. Och
Not subtle, is it?
KittenKong · 11/09/2021 20:20

And now fox is clapping them on the back. Och

OvaHere · 11/09/2021 20:20

Yes that's who I was thinking of thanks.

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 11/09/2021 20:19

@OvaHere

A few female athletes have tried to take a stand. There was a brave female cyclist who spoke out a few years back and received abuse and threats. I think she was sanctioned by a cycling body and maybe lost sponsorship. She was forced to apologise in the end or lose her career and everything she had worked for.

There is no 'choice' or 'consent' for female athletes right now. It's like consenting to something with a gun to your head.

Jen Wagner-Assali?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6296975/American-cyclist-lashes-losing-world-championship-trans-woman-wont-accept-apology.html

OvaHere · 11/09/2021 20:16

A few female athletes have tried to take a stand. There was a brave female cyclist who spoke out a few years back and received abuse and threats. I think she was sanctioned by a cycling body and maybe lost sponsorship. She was forced to apologise in the end or lose her career and everything she had worked for.

There is no 'choice' or 'consent' for female athletes right now. It's like consenting to something with a gun to your head.

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MondayYogurt · 11/09/2021 20:16

[quote OvaHere]Link to footage for those that can bear to look.

I also clocked a look of something akin to euphoria at choking this woman.

I agree that anyone defending this is abhorrent and it says nothing good about them.

twitter.com/GSpellchecker/status/1436715171557302273[/quote]
Watched the video twitter.com/thaweasle/status/1436725193485996039?s=21
and my gut feeling is that McLaughlin was holding back. There's just something in the easy coil of the arms, the speedy movements, it's hard to explain.
That thread also points out how Provost looks to ref each time she feels the strength of a blow.
I'm guessing the men she trained with always held back.

KittenKong · 11/09/2021 20:15

I’m not sure if it was a qualifier or competition - she could drop ranking or be fined by refusing too. As well as the transphobia claims and attacks on that basis.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 11/09/2021 20:12

Yes she agreed to step into the ring but what would happen if she said no thanks?

She might well have been apprehensive that if she'd refused:
– she'd be labelled a transphobe (social death);
– she'd never be offered a bout in a competition again.

OvaHere · 11/09/2021 20:07

Link to footage for those that can bear to look.

I also clocked a look of something akin to euphoria at choking this woman.

I agree that anyone defending this is abhorrent and it says nothing good about them.

twitter.com/GSpellchecker/status/1436715171557302273

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FloralBunting · 11/09/2021 20:04

If you cheer this on, there’s something wrong with you. There really is.

This. One of those pictures I can't unsee. Probably the one KittenKong is referring to. The throttler looks almost ecstatic. Genderism has opened the maw of fucking hell on all of us.

KittenKong · 11/09/2021 19:52

The close U.K. photo of their faces is terrifying. Blood is dribbling from her mouth and she looks terrified. The throttler looks like they are really going for it. Ex special services? Dear god, who thought this was ok? Yes she agreed to step into the ring but what would happen if she said no thanks?

Sophoclesthefox · 11/09/2021 19:19

Welcome to the brave new world, where progress is represented by thinking up creative ways that males who want to hit women can be accommodated Sad

Decent people in possession of male physiques, honed by decades of testosterone don’t hit women. They’re aware that male fists are capable of punching many times harder than female fists, that female bones are a lot less strong than male ones, and that nothing about anybody’s gender identity, or gender reassignment medication or surgery, alters any of that physical reality.

If you cheer this on, there’s something wrong with you. There really is.

rosy71 · 11/09/2021 19:06

What a shocking article I wish I hadn't seen it. How can that be allowed?

PronounssheRa · 11/09/2021 19:00

Male strangling female. Progressive isn't it. FFS.

Anyone who supports this is in favour of male violence against women.

EsmaCannonball · 11/09/2021 18:54

Some people are arguing that Provost consented to this, so what's the problem? Well, what happens to her if she doesn't consent? She loses her place, she loses her money, she's labelled a terf, a bigot, a witch, people send her death threats, people threaten to boycott her appearances, she loses sponsorship, most of the media cheer this on, she's cancelled. That's what happens. Consent is being used like choice in this context, and whenever choice is mentioned we have to look at the options: be pummelled by a male or lose your career.

RedDogsBeg · 11/09/2021 18:09

They're only female as far as this agenda is concerned; just props in the main character's show.

That's it in a nutshell - exactly what the value of women is in this ideology.

OvaHere · 11/09/2021 17:43

@OhHolyJesus

what the hell has to happen?

A woman will be paralysed/be brain dead and as a PP said, then it will be considered her own fault, in manner of the rough sex defence.

Or

A woman will die and it will be her own fault in manner of rough sex defence.

I immediately thought of the 'rough sex defence' upon seeing that picture.

It's hard for the brain not to join dots between two 'acceptable' situations in which males can choke females, even kill them and still mount an 'it was justified' or 'she asked for it' defence.

Thankfully there is finally some recognition that one of those scenarios is never justifiable. It's taken years and a lot of dead women though.

How long will this one take?

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Artichokeleaves · 11/09/2021 17:23

As Fae said on radio - 'domestic violence done wrong' and 'eggshell skulls' hand waving away male people harming and killing females.

They're only female as far as this agenda is concerned; just props in the main character's show.

And this is why no male people under any circumstances should ever be allowed in any female spaces, services or positions.

OhHolyJesus · 11/09/2021 17:17

what the hell has to happen?

A woman will be paralysed/be brain dead and as a PP said, then it will be considered her own fault, in manner of the rough sex defence.

Or

A woman will die and it will be her own fault in manner of rough sex defence.

andyoldlabour · 11/09/2021 16:26

This has absolutely sickened me, the fact that this is seen as either sport or entertainment is disgusting.

Flapjak · 11/09/2021 16:19

There is no trans genocide, because transwomen are male. How many women are murdered each year because they are female compared to trans people ?

PaleGreenGhost · 11/09/2021 16:16

There was a very gushing article in the Guardian about Alana, who joined the US Navy Special Forces to try to fit in as a man after growing up in a very religious household.

So why, if they are self aware enough to know that growing up in a presumably misogynist and homophobic environment influenced their life decisions, do they champion the cause of trans children? Why wouldn't they want to free those children from homophobia and misogyny so they can be as non conforming as they wish, without having to change their bodies?

KittenKong · 11/09/2021 16:15

Eek a mouse - just saw the before photo (when the were 30 odd). My goodness. No.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 11/09/2021 16:06

from the description of this person's life, they probably do feel persecuted, and with good reason.

it's not because they identify as a woman though

BraveBananaBadge · 11/09/2021 16:00

'Stop trans genocide'?! Well, there's the next Twitter hashtag for brainwashing idiots and shutting down dissent.

Everything about that is really quite frightening.