Transgender fighter wins debut after choking out opponent in second round

I don’t even know what to say or think. It seems like it will eventually get to the point where men’s sports are men’s sports and women’s sports are trans sports.

This quote really disturbed me:

Before her bout, McLaughlin, a former member of the US Army Special Forces, said: “I want to pick up the mantle that Fallon put down.”

And this comment on the article perfectly sums up why:

Leonie9999
"Right now, I’m following in Fallon’s footsteps."
So he is planning on breaking a disobedient woman's aka TERF's skull and boast about how much he enjoyed it on Twitter... or possibly worse?

Florabritannica, transmen aren't silent at all. Chris Mosier was the lead name on the case to persuade the IOC to remove the surgery requirement for trans people to compete in the Olympics, in 2015. I mean, we know why that is, but the fact remains that Chris was vocal about it. There are a quite a few other names of transmen who compete in sport and talk about it as of they are competing as men. Very few do that, in fact; so far I've found when I Google them only a few have had even a single competition as a man.

Why is it that transwomen are so vociferous in claiming the right to compete in women’s sport, when - as far as I am aware - transmen are silent on the subject? Surely their human right to participate is equal to that of transwomen? It can’t have anything to do with the fact that transmen will always lose to biological men, can it?

Disgusting.

• How the hell does this person think it’s appropriate to be getting into the ring with a woman?

• Why was this bout sanctioned by the promoter and the relevant sporting body?

• What pressure was the woman put under to ‘compete’ against this person?

• It’s very clear, from the footage, that this person is an amateur; their technique is terrible. Which just highlights how much of an advantage their very late transition has given them when fighting a woman.

Sadly we're going back to women losing their rights. It's abuse. I mean look at the transgender persons body.

Embarrassing and RedDogs I'm okay. I'm forever thankful that I was reached my enough is enough and got out with my young daughters. It is indeed a long recovery. I hate things round my neck and I can't let anyone touch it even my children. Things like this just make me mad, it is just an excuse for men to beat up women. As others had said consent to the fight wasn't really a choice and that sits uncomfortable with me too. Those punches to the head from a male to a female are just horrific. Fallon Fox all over again.

xxx ta, RedDogs.

ArabellaScott and FemaleandLearning, I'm so sorry, it's not enough but for you both.

Thanks, Embarrassing. I am totally fine, except when I see things like this, tbh.

I won't link to the photo, because it's too disturbing, but the expression on the face of both the winner and the loser of this fight is telling, and had a visceral impact.

@ArabellaScott

Female. I'm so sorry. Hoping you have plenty of support and help to recover.

The harms and traumas of DV are never fully accounted for and so many live wearing the visible and invisible scars of it on their skin and in the reaction to every noise or potential threat.

Female. I'm so sorry. Hoping you have plenty of support and help to recover.

It saddens me that we have no female sports any more. I also can't understand why we would need sports to be segregated according to 'gender identity'.

Does anyone have any doubts now that women are being driven out of the public sphere?

Wow, very very little support, I'm surprised.

Barely anything positive at all apart from friends and a fan who met Alana as an 'egg'.

Is Alana too new to the 'community' to have found the hard-core supporters who will defend Alana's 'human right' to compete 'as a woman' which therefore involves choking and beating up women?

Here is the victorious person's Twitter, not much support:

twitter.com/AlanaFeral/status/1436718708936826884

I don't see how the logical outcome can be avoided until the risk outweighs women competitors' fear of what will happen if they refuse to compete .

Is there robust MMA governance in the same way as individual martial arts have it?

I assume that the referees are skilled (I haven't watched the video of the fight) but don't know if venues are encouraged/obliged to have ringside doctors, guidance from neurologists etc.

Interesting to see that this is a foul:

Throat strikes of any kind, and/or grabbing the trachea

I'm not competent to judge the nuance of this v. choking out an opponent.

www.ufc.com/unified-rules-mixed-martial-arts

OldCrone that's true!

Any of the regular 'omg you're all so narrow-minded' posters want to join us?

Actually I know the answer. If we bring up prisons we're called carceral feminists and told the answer is to abolish prisons, so the answer here will be to ban MMA. As if these things weren't the visible tip of the iceberg of MVAW.

MMA is a dangerous sport. Boxing is far more controlled, and the weight categories are very strict, and there are certifications and doctors present etc and boxers have still been killed in the ring.

Whether you agree with these sports or not there's no way a woman should be fighting a man. For all the various reasons detailed elsewhere about strength and muscle mass and bone density and joint strength etc.

But MMA seems to pride itself on its wildness, and as an industry needs to be challenged.