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Rosie Duffield thank you

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Whatthechicken · 10/09/2021 16:39

I haven’t seen another thread on this today and I know she must be on here - thank you Rosie!

Rosie on Twitter today:

twitter.com/rosieduffield1/status/1436276236049862661?s=21

Hope that’s a clicky link.

Despite the hate you may be getting Rosie, there is a legion behind you!

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LizzieSiddal · 19/09/2021 08:02

Thanks Ignecoccus, very pleased robust language is being used to describe these people. Rosie is indeed being terrorised.

Igneococcus · 19/09/2021 07:50

The front page that I found online uses the same headline as the current online one.

Igneococcus · 19/09/2021 07:44

Link:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/7031598a-18a1-11ec-90af-743585f1287c?shareToken=f24be1ed1b768067ed1e08523cd62783

Comments now starting to come through.

LizzieSiddal · 19/09/2021 07:41

Wow they’ve changed the headline, calling these vile people “extremists”. Very pleased to see it. I wonder what it says in the print version?
Apologies I can’t seem to be able to do a link but this is the HL now.

“Speaker’s anger as extremists terrorise Labour MP Rosie Duffield*

ANewCreation · 19/09/2021 01:07

A tale of two female politicians:

Liz Truss speaking on
@NickFerrariLBC

"Women do have vaginas, Nick."
www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/liz-truss-defends-student-who-faces-disciplinary-action-for-saying-women-have-va/

Boris Johnson promotes Liz Truss to Foreign Secretary.

In response to an American cancer society's tweet about screening for individuals (sic) with a cervix, Piers Morgan tweets 'Do you mean women?' which Rosie Duffield had the temerity to like, causing a pile on...
Rosie Duffield then tweeted "I'm a 'transphobe' for knowing that only women have a cervix...?!"

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/rosie-duffield-labour-mp-cervix-women-backlash-a4514321.html

For this - and because she won't capitulate - Rosie Duffield can't attend her own party conference because her party leader, Keir Starmer, never steps in to defend her from those who troll her from within the party and she considers her physical safety to be at risk.

So ridiculously depressing that, in 2021, the current Labour Party has seemingly no grasp of class analysis and pretends not to know what a woman is and will not move to provide safety for a female MP - and yet they expect women to vote for them. No thank you.

Flowers Rosie Duffield

Rhannion · 19/09/2021 00:46

My comment has been pending for hours now wtf?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/09/2021 23:18

Hopeless Starmer doesn't need to be sending texts! He needs to employ as many security guards to ensure that all his MPs are safe to attend conference and remove the passes for every single member (including the misogynists in the Lords) who has issued verbal, physical, sexual or death threats towards any MP or woman. Or condoned them.

Until he finds his moral compass and evidently lacking personal courage the party will continue to be a dangerous place for woman.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 18/09/2021 23:08

@Lettera

Apologies, Arabella, I overlooked the text. I'm sure that reassured Rosie that she has her party leader's fullest support.
I'm still not hopeful that at any point he'll stand up with a cardboard sign declaring, Down with this sort of thing.
LizzieSiddal · 18/09/2021 22:52

I’ve tried to reply. My comment is awaiting censorship.Hmm

Congressdingo · 18/09/2021 21:54

@Waitwhat23

I've managed to see one comment and it's rather cheering -

'Patrick Jolly
16M AGO

Owen Jones is a craven disgrace!

And Rosie Duffield is perfectly entitled to speak her views in an open society.

Shame on the white male misogynists.
(Edited)'

Patrick has posted two more times,

Lots of recommends…. Anyone else want to put their names down too, with their opinions or thoughts on this issue? 😁

He realises no one else seems able to reply.
What a shit show. Hopefully the times will go to a different moderating model soon.

Lettera · 18/09/2021 21:06

Apologies, Arabella, I overlooked the text. I'm sure that reassured Rosie that she has her party leader's fullest support.

ArabellaScott · 18/09/2021 20:50

@Lettera

Keir Starmer's failure to support Rosie Duffield is absolutely shameful. Disgusting that it has fallen to the Speaker to raise concerns.
Well, according to the article he sent a text. So, you know. He's not completely abandoned one of his MPs when she is receiving terrible threats and abuse. If it gets any worse he might even WhatsApp her and then they'll be jolly well sorry.
Waitwhat23 · 18/09/2021 20:25

@RedDogsBeg

Whaitwhat23 Here's a politican who is experiencing this trolling and her safety is compromised, to the extent she cannot attend this event. The people attending will be signing a pledge to 'crack down' on trolling etc but the Labour Party as a whole haven't made a statement to condemn the trolling against Duffield? It's only been individual party members?v Have I got that right?

This is a different event it is a special conference in Chorley for Heads of Parliament from the G7 Nations not the Labour Party Conference and the Speakers at this conference are the ones that will sign the pledge.

The Labour Party leader is a shameful disgrace.

Ah, thank you @reddogsbeg
RedDogsBeg · 18/09/2021 20:19

Whaitwhat23 Here's a politican who is experiencing this trolling and her safety is compromised, to the extent she cannot attend this event. The people attending will be signing a pledge to 'crack down' on trolling etc but the Labour Party as a whole haven't made a statement to condemn the trolling against Duffield? It's only been individual party members?v Have I got that right?

This is a different event it is a special conference in Chorley for Heads of Parliament from the G7 Nations not the Labour Party Conference and the Speakers at this conference are the ones that will sign the pledge.

The Labour Party leader is a shameful disgrace.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/09/2021 20:18

The moderating company will be in a meeting fretting about how to allow views to be posted on that article that might support Rosie and not bend the knee sufficiently deeply to the trans taliban (I think that's what the magnificent Julie Bindel calls them)

PronounssheRa · 18/09/2021 20:16

@Lettera

Keir Starmer's failure to support Rosie Duffield is absolutely shameful. Disgusting that it has fallen to the Speaker to raise concerns.
It's disgraceful isn't it, a woman doesn't feel safe at work, her boss and colleagues stay silent.

It reflects so badly on Labour

Jackiebrambles · 18/09/2021 20:02

Wow I didn’t realise they’d actually turned off the comments on Janice’s piece! Wtf

Lettera · 18/09/2021 20:01

Keir Starmer's failure to support Rosie Duffield is absolutely shameful. Disgusting that it has fallen to the Speaker to raise concerns.

Jackiebrambles · 18/09/2021 20:01

My comment is being moderated and awaiting approval!

Waitwhat23 · 18/09/2021 19:52

I've managed to see one comment and it's rather cheering -

'Patrick Jolly
16M AGO

Owen Jones is a craven disgrace!

And Rosie Duffield is perfectly entitled to speak her views in an open society.

Shame on the white male misogynists.
(Edited)'

Waitwhat23 · 18/09/2021 19:49

'It is understood the Speakers at the conference will sign a pledge to try to ensure the safety of elected politicians and crack down on social media platforms to prevent trolling.'

Here's a politican who is experiencing this trolling and her safety is compromised, to the extent she cannot attend this event. The people attending will be signing a pledge to 'crack down' on trolling etc but the Labour Party as a whole haven't made a statement to condemn the trolling against Duffield? It's only been individual party members?v Have I got that right?

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Rhannion · 18/09/2021 19:39

I think this article is getting a lot of comments, more sunlight, the better and shame on all those in her party and other parties who don’t stand up for her.

ArabellaScott · 18/09/2021 19:35

“For the first time in my life, having been an ambassador for a gender-balanced 50:50 parliament, I would hesitate to encourage other women to come into politics,” she said. “I would have to really think about what I was asking them to do, and putting people into this position when they are going to be on the front line of some pretty shitty abuse ... it wears you down. I’m not going to pretend it doesn’t.”

Fucking hell, that's appalling.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/09/2021 19:35

All the comments are being held at the moment. I suspect they're in a bit of a dilemma - having suddenly hidden the many hundreds of comments under Janice Turner's article, they're faced with the same issues about free speech being raised again. The Times have outsourced the moderation of their articles to a USA company who don't have the same values as the paper about free speech so they end up looking like idiots with some of their inconsistent decisions.

Rhannion · 18/09/2021 19:34

Still says people typing

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