Male/female brain evidence

I find it really surprising if a study along these lines has been done - you're saying that researchers gained consent from prepubertal children's parents for brain scans of their kids before medication was given?

If a brain is in a male sexed body it's a male brain.

It wouldn't matter if we were all drones with identical brains. If bodies were sexed there would still be male drones and female drones. If you have a 'female' brain in a male body, it isn't a female brain. If there is a typical male brain and a typical female brain it would still just mean it was an atypical male brain.

As it is, most sex differences are 2 normal overlapping population distribution curves. Some with a significant overlap, some with very little overlap. Mostly attributed to the action of hormones at different stages. That means on any given measure you would expect a proportion of males to present in the female range and vis versa.

There have been threads discussing this and digging up the best sources and studies so far available, which ultimately concluded there wasn't much evidence and it was all a bit inconclusive - especially as sample sizes were small and as Tibtom says, it's hard to tell what's caused a brain difference when people are taking hormone treatments that can cause those effects.

Plus of course, why should brain scans mean anything? What if my nose or my feet are more like those of an average man, does that make me male? No. So why should brain shape or whatever? Why should a brain scan matter more than the rest of the body being male sexed?

The other thing to point out is that if someone really believes trans people have special brains matching their desired "gender" and this can be shown in a scan, then why would they want self ID? You could simply test who is really trans using a scan. Trans people surely wouldn't want anyone to be faking it and using up their resources, or giving them a bad name by being predatory and not really trans. So they should be in favour of brain scans and not self ID.

Strangely they don't seem to pursue it when you point this out.

I suspect it's bollocks, or you would have got a citation.

As we know from posters here, actual citations from TRAs almost always undermine the claim being made.

If it's not bollocks, then it's related to something real and concrete that correlates with their "cis/trans" cohort. Either sexuality, or hormones, most likely. So it would have no relevance to "transgender" in the broader sense.

It's like saying "tall people tend to have beards". True, but it's not the tallness that causes the beard. There's an underlying more concrete variable.

If someone is saying this is 'evidence', ask them for a link to the original research. If they can't do this it probably doesn't exist or doesn't say what they think it does.

*study. Hate this phone. So many more typos than my last phone.

There was a studdmy that was constantly referenced that foubd transgender brain were 'more similar' (ie not the same) as the sex they were transitioning to. That study also found no difference prepuberty. But everyone quoting it failed to mention at puberty the transgender participants started Tryptorelin. In otherwords what it showed was an association between Tryprorelin and brain differences. That this drug affected brain development a) isn't a surprise and b) again questions how reversible/harmless pause these drugs are.

Frankly, a blogpost that uses the phrase ‘some random Karen’ and tells said person to ‘screw off’ amidst outpourings of male self-pity about all the things that are easier for women (example ‘knowing the baby is yours’) wouldn’t fill me with the idea that anything referred to actually existed.