Not enjoying the Janey Godley pile on....

Never heard of her

Slightly unrelated but I don't think I realise how coordinated some things are on SM like Twitter (there's a flash alert system, if I understand this correctly?):

twitter.com/MainelyMandy/status/1436051230304964612?s=20

As ever, I'm quite taken aback by the low threshold for what is styled as a 'dogpile'.

I'd no idea that Godley was responsible for 'dogpiles' on others. As above, never mind general apologies, has she apologised to those individuals to whom she did this? They're the apologies that count.

I also have to wonder how long Twitter will be usable for any contentious topic if there are roving bands of 'supporters' for whatever cause, waiting to be triggered into presence as a means of support rather than discussion.

She’s awful, vociferous against anyone disagreeing with her agenda, and a bit thick. Afraid I cannot muster up much sympathy for her, seeing as how she is such a fan of cancel culture herself.

Robertson sees herself as the person to determine who gets to perform sorry & whether the person should be 'removed from communities'. There's a lot of ego & powertrip going on with her. Not only does she revel in the ability to trigger social exclusion, she thinks it's in her gift to determine other people's 'humanity'.

Godley has worded her apology as she's been told to, to try & navigate her way through this to 'redemption'. She seems to genuinely be distressed by what's happening but she's been pulled up for her awful past tweets before & brushed it off. Why it's now come back to haunt her? Being employed by the government to front a health campaign takes you up a level of scrutiny & integrity & she just doesn't meet the threshold.

She's in the 'good graces' of the SNP & the FM & will be back. She'll not learn from the pile on to stop her own targeting & pile ons of other though. But she'll be insufferable in her moral superiority having 'been through a journey'.

Godley has been lauded in the US - here’s an article in the WSJ from January describing Godley as “The Secret Ingredient in Scotland’s Covid Fight: Comedy”.

www.wsj.com/articles/the-secret-ingredient-in-scotlands-covid-fight-comedy-11611245592

No, I don't condone her either.

(I genuinely can’t condone her either - I just don’t like anyone being piled on, even if they deserve it.)

Or been

She also made the point she's a conservative campaigner.

The journo is Jamie Ross - he’s a Scottish reporter based in London, formerly Scotland correspondent for Buzzfeed and ex BBC Scotland.

Have to say I'm not to keen on the pile on either.

I felt Kellie Jay was reasonably respectful and made points that JG had never protested against worse regimes than Trump, and so it was just a publicity stunt and described her well known abuse of women for standing up for sex based rights.

I'm not sure Frankie Boyle would ever get the same treatment by everyone and their goldfish.

Does anyone know why The Daily Beast were investigating her old tweets?

I agree that it seems odd - maybe because of anti Trump protest but that seems like old news.

kimiko I haven’t said anything about how young she was, in fact I said it was quite recently that a lot of people came out with this stuff (NOT that that makes it ok.)

I did think her apology seemed genuine and she has said she deserves all she gets, and that’s the right thing to do - of course you can’t know how genuine anyone is but she seems mortified (as she should be).

However as I also said since that post, it’s actually worse than I’d realised and I unfollowed her because I don’t want to be seen as supporting or condoning her.

Does anyone know why The Daily Beast were investigating her old tweets? Is there a backstory to that? I'm English and had no idea who Janey Godley was until this blew up so why were US journo's interested in her?

I don't agree with cancel culture but it seems she does. Surely she would be a hypocrite not to support her own cancellation. I'd only heard of her because she's been mentioned once or twice by Graham Linehan. Looking at some of her tweets that people are collating on Twitter, not only is she just not funny (more like one of those abusive drunks, mouthing off on the bus) but she's also said far nastier things than any GC person who's been kicked off that platform. Will she be arrested? Will she and her friends be thrown out of pubs?

Frankie Boyle has got away with this stuff because he's a prime example of what I call Men Surviving the Cull. These are traditionally successful men who've realised that more space for other types of people equals less space for them. They survive the cull by adopting one or both of two strategies; first, identifying as trans or non-binary or queer or anything that gives you identity privilege but can't be proven in any objective way; second, by becoming one of the most prolific or vicious denouncers of anyone who fails to support identity privilege, and thereby become too valuable to the cause to be sidelined. It's absolutely craven.

For consistency, will Godley have to be charged or will some person (although not necessarily an individual who received them) if I understand this correctly, need to complain?

However, weren't those charges dropped in the case of Millar?

Any way up, it's difficult to see how she can retain the work that Scots Gov. awarded her. And I'd be surprised if the theatre that's hired her for panto can follow through. It would be inconsistent with other such actions against others.

It's a mess.

Were these tweets deleted?

If not there seems to be a disconnect between the SNP’s stance on hate crimes and their apparent naivety about twitter. Was the assumption that she had only ever been rude to the right people?

twitter.com/baddiel/status/1435558335823163397?s=21

I don’t know what the was said in the Tweet that was deleted though.

How can anyone who is not black or Jewish forgive an adult who made comments like those? Some of the worst racist trash I've ever read and the Scottish government think that is OK and hire her?

Must be awful when you are leading the torch bearing mob.....then you look around and nobody's there. I hate the pile-ons too and perhaps this will be a moment of catharsis. But then I thought that when Graham Linehan made his statement to the Commons. Or when JKR published her essay ....but..

In general I agree that people including comedians can say what they like.

What's depressing is with eg FB and this woman, enough people like it to give them a career and income.

And in this case be given massive stamp of approval by govt.