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Not enjoying the Janey Godley pile on....

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rabbitwoman · 09/09/2021 20:55

Haven't seen a thread on this, although there is a bit on the end of the NS thread at the moment.

But Godley was very outspoken against anyone questioning the trans rights agenda, and is someone who gleefully and happily reports, blocks and let's lose a barrage of very foul mouthed abuse to anyone who disagrees with her on twitter.

However, I am not enjoying her twitter take down this evening. I would much prefer a complete turn around and all the oldest voices to use this as an opportunity to call for a more reasonable debate.

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TheyreTheSamePicture · 09/09/2021 22:20

I too am baffled if these tweets were so recent and not hidden, why haven’t they been raised before, or when they first appeared?

I was going to say this - I’d have thought these tweets would have been revealed before now, or she’d have deleted them when she started becoming more widely known. Unless there’s a way of showing deleted tweets?

QueenPeary · 09/09/2021 22:16

Ok I’ve now seen enough that I have to unfollow her, I had thought it was good for her to apologise genuinely but, I hadn’t been aware of all the content until this thread.

I too am baffled if these tweets were so recent and not hidden, why haven’t they been raised before, or when they first appeared?

rabbitwoman · 09/09/2021 22:16

Janey Godley is similar to frankie Boyle in her delivery, a kind drawl of vitriol, and the humour is in being as vile and descriptive as possible without actually being terribly witty.

I could do that. But I am far too nice!!

I am wondering why Marion Millar's tweets fell foul of the Scottish hate crime bill and not janey Godley, though. Okay, so no one cares about insulting and threatening women, but janey's tweets were, without a shadow of a doubt, full of nasty racism. It's not even over sensitive to point it out. They are as hateful as it is possible for a tweet to be, surely.....?

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Babdoc · 09/09/2021 22:11

NiceGerbil, she uses Chernobyl as a metaphor for genetic radiation damage causing serious abnormalities in people she wishes to mock for their appearance or limited intelligence.
She apparently believes this to be “humorous”.
I find her utterly unamusing and her language ignorant and repulsive. She also seems to be loved by SNP supporters, which is the final straw as far as I’m concerned!

NiceGerbil · 09/09/2021 22:09

Thank you but I'd have to dig my reading glasses out and too comfy!

I think I have the gist.

The one in the article linked appalling.

If that's her style and always has been then...

Has Frankie Boyle ever apologised? Pretty sure he hasn't. I think he said it's comedy if you don't like my comedy then fuck off. Or similar.

PronounssheRa · 09/09/2021 22:05

twitter.com/JamesSa60728172/status/1435885108297404420

The collection of tweets are more readable in this link. Can't check if they are all genuine because janey has locked her account.

I agree re male comedians, Frankie Boyle has said some awful things, with no impact on his career

NiceGerbil · 09/09/2021 21:59

I do think that there are male comedians who get away with terrible stuff. So I do think that the response is sexist to some extent.

What's her fixation with Chernobyl?? Anyone know? That's lousy.

I couldn't read all the tweets too small.

CharlieParley · 09/09/2021 21:58

@Velveteena

actually I did find some of her Sturgeon voiceovers quite funny.
So did I. After interacting with her though and especially after seeing her lay into another survivor who dared disagree with her on Polanski, I disengaged, unfollowed and blocked because I felt no need to put up with so much unprovoked nastiness. Every. Single. Day.

I still think the current pile on is unhealthy, but I think that anyway, whoever it is. It's just not necessary. I do not however blame anyone who was at the receiving end of her nastiness feeling that she is reaping what she sowed.

Gimlisaxe · 09/09/2021 21:52

I knew her from years and years ago, when I read one of her books, they are heartbreaking, however it doesn't excuse any of the tweets she has sent and while you may think her apology was good, I think she is still trying to justify it all.

Velveteena · 09/09/2021 21:43

actually I did find some of her Sturgeon voiceovers quite funny.

NovemberWitch · 09/09/2021 21:41

No pity that she’s being eaten alive for her racist, disablist and generally foul humour. Not so much fun when you’re the one being targeted for your views.
She was more than happy to unleash her venom on others for less reason.

ISpyCobraKai · 09/09/2021 21:40

I loved her, I'd only seen her voice overs which were great, and v funny.
It's only fairly recently I'd looked into her a bit further and realised she's awful.

Duckypoohs · 09/09/2021 21:38

Tbh I only knew from the Richard herring podcast, pretty surprised at the racism.

StealthPolarBear · 09/09/2021 21:37

I used to vaguely like her, followed her on Twitter, I didn't know she was vile. I stopped following her when she told anyone GC to bugger off or similar can't remember the details. I'm sad to see she's all round nasty.

PronounssheRa · 09/09/2021 21:34

Sturgeon seems to be a fan

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Velveteena · 09/09/2021 21:34

The tweets are fucking appalling. I've never had much of an opinion on her, never found her particularly funny but wasn't bothered by her either. It seems she's enjoyed creating pile-ons herself in the past and now she's taking flak for her own actions. No one forced her to be a racist. The phrase 'cancel culture' gets bandied around so much these days but usually it's just someone not enjoying having to face the consequences of their own actions.

If she hasn't already she should log off Twitter as I can imagine the volume of angry messages could be quite overwhelming.

ditalini · 09/09/2021 21:32

What I don't get is that everyone knew JG was like this. Everyone knew that she was foul mouthed, her 'humour' was largely based on attacks, her persona absolutely was based on being non-pc. It's not like any of this was a secret but it seems to have been decided at some point that she was now an excellent ambassador for modern, SNP Scotland, largely based on a Trump sign and a willingness to attack anyone who spoke out in favour of women's rights.

If the government have got a red face over this then they only have themselves to blame.

PronounssheRa · 09/09/2021 21:32

Janeys tweets

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TheyreTheSamePicture · 09/09/2021 21:31

Those tweets were absolutely awful, and she was a grown woman when she posted them not that long ago. I’m really surprised at them actually.

She does seem vulnerable and very desperate to be liked

334bu · 09/09/2021 21:30

Nothing makes mocking disabled people and posting racist tweets acceptable.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 09/09/2021 21:29

Her problem is she has blocked most of the internet. So she believes her own hype.

The problem is not what she said, that's not a secret, she's not hidden it. The problem is that someone at the scottish government didn't do due diligence before making her the face of the new covid campaign.

This is what happens when you don't listen to people. Holyrood is an echo chamber and someone has really fucked up.

Janey has piled on many, many people. I'm not that sympathetic, though I do think she's been dumped from a shitty height for someone else's mistake.

Am looking forward to the Daly Record, LOJ, Gaiman, Amanda Palmer, the Scottish Trans Alliance, Patrick Harvie, and Nicola Sturgeon all standing up for her.

Nothing so far, I see.

PronounssheRa · 09/09/2021 21:28

There are huge amounts of tweets and voice recordings of her being racist, ableist. Very offensive language. She isn't a child these are all fairly recent. She sounds fucking awful and has encouraged bullying of others on twitter.

You won't get reasonable debate with someone like Janey.

NiceGerbil · 09/09/2021 21:28

Generally I really dislike the dredging of old stuff on Twitter esp some bloke recently who posted some stuff which got called misogynist when he was 15 or something and it was a. Mild and b. He didn't write stuff just joined in which is a bit different.

However.

While stupid shit written at 15 is one thing, stupid shit posted 5 years ago when you were 55 is not the same thing.

And that comment I read is yikes.

Having said that Frankie Boyle has said some utterly appalling stuff and well he seems to get away with it so is there sexism at play here.

Dunno.

YellowClouds · 09/09/2021 21:28

Some of her tweets are awful, racist and disabilist. They are also not that historic, she tweeted them as a woman in her 50s old enough to know better, not as a youngster.

I think she accidentally done well out of the pandemic and has sort of moved away from comedy to some sort of political covid preacher and I think that got a lot of people's backs up as it was very 2 faced. For weeks her and her daughter have been all around the country doing work, meeting people - which is absolutely fair enough. But then knowing she had an ad campaign coming out started making very sad faced videos and saying how scared of covid she was and people shouldn't be meeting up. Quite hypocritical.

That aside, she very much plays the victim but some of her tweets and voice clips I've heard are just too much. Think the Scottish Gov teamed up with her too quickly without thinking it through.

rabbitwoman · 09/09/2021 21:26

Oh yes, undoubtedly the tweets are awful.

Indefensible - and actually not even witty. Just foul.

This is the kind of treatment she meeted out to anyone who questioned the established Trans Rights position in Scotland, also.

But it just seems that this is enough now. Let's cancel all charges against Marion Millar and call it evens.....

(also, frankly janey seems quite vulnerable to me. It is not an excuse. I just think now would be a good time to take a breath and REALLY look at what we are doing to each other.....)

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