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Another UK Police and Crime Commissioner speaks out

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ChristinaXYZ · 09/09/2021 14:33

Philip Wilkinson, new PCC for Swindon and Wiltshire

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9973107/PCC-warns-biological-men-not-allowed-womens-toilets-prisons-security-fears.html

or if you prefer

archive.is/qDLjf

Initially at least three other Conservative PCCs went public to say that they shared her concerns – Donna Jones, the PCC for Hampshire & Isle of Wight, Marc Jones, for Lincolnshire, and Rupert Mathews, who serves as the PCC for Leicestershire and other like Philip Allott of North Yorks retweeted Marc Jones' support.

Again, all Tories. UK Labour Party is utterly, utterly lost on this.

Conservative Home has asked all Conservative PCCs for their thought and some more have responded:

www.conservativehome.com/localgovernment/2021/09/stonewall-controversy-more-views-from-conservative-police-and-crime-commissioners.html

If you have a Conservative PCC then it may well be worth writing to them asking if they agree with their colleagues above and what they'll be doing to promote women's safety in their area and enforcing impartiality within their police force. The more that come out, the more that will feel able to speak up.

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Tanith · 11/09/2021 17:33

This is the map of PCCs, if you want to write to yours, either in support or to request clarification of his or her position:

www.apccs.police.uk/find-your-pcc/

Skade · 11/09/2021 16:30

I was really encouraged to see David Sidwick the PCC for Dorset speaking up and backing Lisa Townsend.

CaptainCaveMum · 11/09/2021 10:47

Interesting thread - but depressing for those of us living in London… have probably belatedly and naively just discovered that we don’t get a PCC because we have a mayor - yay - lucky us having Sadiq ‘Stonewall approved’ Khan…

Realyorkshiretea · 11/09/2021 10:29

With his career history, he doesn’t seem like the kind of person who would be easily intimidated.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 11/09/2021 10:21

Yes, and he’s high-level and influential. A very encouraging example to set.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/09/2021 09:47

After all the abuse he has received I saw that he has issued a statement of clarification. My heart sank as I assumed he was going to "do better", to "educate himself" and perhaps have diversity training from on of the TRA groups. But no, he is sticking by his guns

The more people who do this and ride out the storm, the less others will be scared to stand up.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 11/09/2021 08:21

I’ve just read Philip Wilkinson’s statement. Good man! He knows how much abuse he’s going to get, but he’s not backing down. I despair of the Labour Party and Green Party, grovelling to whoever shouts loudest (and that’s never women).

I’m going to look up my local PCC and write to them.

Realyorkshiretea · 10/09/2021 22:23

@losenotloose it really doesn’t need to be fancy - just a thank you for standing up for women and girls Smile

losenotloose · 10/09/2021 21:40

I'm new to the Feminism chat and decided to have a look after hearing more about gender identity ideology. It's been eye opening and I'm so impressed with the intelligent posts on the subject. Far cleverer people than me! Anyway, I'd like to express my gratitude to this PCC. could someone help with the rough wording?

Realyorkshiretea · 10/09/2021 20:21

Do email him your thanks if you can - he will be facing a barrage of abuse for this, which after a while can become really mind twisting and wearing. He needs to know just how much support he has. What a brave person.

GreyhoundG1rl · 10/09/2021 19:56

@mustlovegin

But no, he is sticking by his guns

A breath of fresh air

The absolute beaut 👍
PickAChew · 10/09/2021 19:54

SW stylee

PickAChew · 10/09/2021 19:53

Labour PCC, here. No specific statements in their equality and diversity plan, dated this year, but at least they are not misquoting the equality act, SW styler. It correctly includes sex and gender reassignment as protected characteristics.

Another UK Police and Crime Commissioner speaks out
mustlovegin · 10/09/2021 19:29

But no, he is sticking by his guns

A breath of fresh air

jhuizinga · 10/09/2021 19:11

I wrote to my (Conservative) PCC. He didn't express a view on the basis that such relationships were an operational matter but did, with my permission, forward my concerns to the Chief Constable. It turns out the force has left the Stonewall programme anyway, which surprised me, but has to be regarded as a good thing.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 10/09/2021 19:00

After all the abuse he has received I saw that he has issued a statement of clarification. My heart sank as I assumed he was going to "do better", to "educate himself" and perhaps have diversity training from on of the TRA groups. But no, he is sticking by his guns Shock Grin
www.wiltshire-pcc.gov.uk/my-office/opcc-news/2021/september-2021/statement-from-pcc-philip-wilkinson/

BeBraverToday · 10/09/2021 09:37

This is fantastic. I am going to write and express my thanks.

gluteustothemaximus · 09/09/2021 22:09

This has really cheered me up, on a day that our large secondary school, has now combined once separate boys/girls toilets to unisex with no plan or thought for safeguarding our girls, and on the back of the ofsted reports that show sexual harassment in secondary schools as rife.

Tanith · 09/09/2021 21:00

Surely contacting all of them, regardless of their party, is a good thing to do?

Thislittlefinger123 · 09/09/2021 20:49

I was so cheered to see this earlier. Another chunk of sunlight....

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ChristinaXYZ · 09/09/2021 20:44

@Tanith

There are 26 Conservative PCCs, 8 Labour and 1 Plaid Cymru.

Only 5 PCCs have spoken out. It's good that they have done so, but they are evidently at odds with their party.

21 Conservative, 8 Labour and 1 Plaid Cymru PCCs have not spoken out.

I'm not really seeing a notable party political aspect.

I think quite a lot of those 21 conservatives are there for the persuading. Contacting your PCC is a good thing to do if you feel able to.
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Nachthex · 09/09/2021 18:25

Thanks FrancesGumm, will take a look.

Tanith · 09/09/2021 18:08

There are 26 Conservative PCCs, 8 Labour and 1 Plaid Cymru.

Only 5 PCCs have spoken out. It's good that they have done so, but they are evidently at odds with their party.

21 Conservative, 8 Labour and 1 Plaid Cymru PCCs have not spoken out.

I'm not really seeing a notable party political aspect.

mustlovegin · 09/09/2021 17:44

It's encouraging that people feel they can speak up, whatever their stance is.

FrancesGumm · 09/09/2021 17:37

@Nachthex - if you’re on fb it’s on there - he’s Philip Wilkinson pcc . It starts ‘I have spent most of the last twenty years ….’