Nicola Sturgeon shouts “shame on you” to Tory MSP who mentioned last week’s demo

Those terms have always been racist and homophobic and JG knows that and knew it when she used them. 'Comedy' is no fucking excuse either, there is nothing remotely funny about those terms.

That's the level of language and terminology you'd expect to be used by racist thugs at a BNP meeting, what company you align yourself with JG.

I note JG has locked her Twitter account now, wonder why, what else could be found?

Oh my, if it turns out to be a reserved issue, that will be interesting. I always thought this issue would take down the SNP eventually but this is a whole new angle.

KimikosNightmare I think you will find an awful lot of people in Scotland, both separatist and unionist, would contest your statement that there is no such thing as Scottish parents or presumably being Scottish.

But that misses my point which was regardless of residency or heritage, if my birth was registered in Sussex then the Scottish Parliament cannot require Sussex registrars to change my birth certificate. So how would a Scottish-only reformed GRC work for anyone born outside Scotland?

There are differences between Scots law and English law in some fairly major areas- inheritance and family law is different; Scots law gives 16 year olds far more autonomy in Scotland; divorce is different (and easier) and succession to property is different.

If you were born in Sussex but move to Scotland on a permanent basis (become domiciled) Scots Law will apply to you. Hence Gretna Green marriages (which don't require much in the way of residency)

If you were married in England you can get divorced in Scotland if you meet the residence requirements. On your death if you are domiciled in Scotland the succession to your property will be dealt with under Scots Law regardless of your being born in Sussex.

The statute dealing with registration of births in Scotland is The Registration of Births, Deaths and Marriages (Scotland) Act 1965. England and Wales (but not NI) isThe Births and Deaths Registration Act 1953 (I think).

Holyrood cannot possibly have power to order the Sussex registrar to re-issue a certificate issued under the English legislation.

Of course the separatist argument will be some sort of nonsense about everyone's welcome here and you can apply for Scottish citizenship . That might get you a Scottish passport but it still can't force the registrar in Sussex to issue a new birth certificate.

The judgement on their named person scheme: "The first thing that a totalitarian regime tries to do is get at the children, to distance them from the subversive, varied influences of their families, and indoctrinate them in their rulers' view of the world"

Any concern that I now raise wrt biologically intact males seeking female only spaces or how I find it problematic that being a ‘woman’ can rest on a feeling is immediately dismissed as being ‘Tory’ by my DC and DC’s friends.

Regardless of the fact that I’ve never voted and would never vote Tory. Unfortunately, there is little to be gained from trying to discuss these issues because it only drives my DC further down the rabbit hole towards TRA online voices to find counter arguments.

It is, however, disorienting that it seems only to be the Tory party that recognises my concerns. Can’t get my head around that

Where’s my basic energy tariff you promised in 2017. Sturgeon

Where ?

Just thinking about changing birth certificates. If I was borne in Sussex to Scottish parents, lived in Scotland for 35 years, and self id in Scotland my birth certificate is still an extract of the sussex register. How does the Scottish Government change that?

Thanks for the link Waitwhat23, that was a good write up of the issue. And this sums up the issue perfectly:

The First Minister is determined to make her nation a global poster child for progressive, tolerant government. There are many women in Scotland today who would argue she is doing precisely the opposite.

Any feminist worthy of the label would seek to sit down with those women and find out why they disagree. But she has not, to date, been willing to do so.

Thank you @CharlieParley ! Still not sure why my link wouldn't work

www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2021/09/nicola-sturgeon-refusing-back-down-trans-rights-resistance-growing

SOMETHING must be going on as it makes zero sense otherwise.

See also the quiet dropping of the plan for a state owned energy company...

This could be why Sturgeon is pushing it so hard; yet another way to bash Westminster whilst appearing ‘progressive’.

This is exactly why she's doing it. She's desperate for Scotland to be seen as more progressive than England. And the GRA is one way she has chosen to demonstrate that. Unfortunately for her it's not going to be an easy win.

SOMETHING must be going on as it makes zero sense otherwise.

No idea why the link isn't working!

/politics/staggers/2021/09/nicola-sturgeon-refusing-back-down-trans-rights-resistance-growing

I liked this article - /politics/staggers/2021/09/nicola-sturgeon-refusing-back-down-trans-rights-resistance-growing

I am seeing some discussion on social media about whether the Scottish govt actually has the right to reform the GRA; it is unclear, especially given how it knits together with the EqA 2010.

So Nicola Sturgeon can promise to reform it, yet may find it isn’t possible from a constitutional point of view, so she could then claim yet again that Westminster are thwarting the ‘will of the Scottish people’.

I have seen lawyers arguing over this so the legality does not appear to be straightforward, especially when it comes to altering birth certificates. I think this is going to get pretty complicated.

This could be why Sturgeon is pushing it so hard; yet another way to bash Westminster whilst appearing ‘progressive’.

This is hilarious.

She's not a feminist. She's a very shrewd politician whose purpose is to hang on to her position in the long term.

Yes. That's a pretty depressing analysis, and it sounds perfectly possible. The only thing I'm not sure of is how happy all those men are going to be if they twig to how dirtily the SNP are increasingly playing. There's a sizeable chunk of SNP voters who were firmly behind Salmond and won't enjoy what Sturgeon's doing to the party.

And/or how they will respond if their wives/daughters/mothers start to be affected by the issues involved, here.

Good to hear Waitwhat23 !

Even more from Janey Godley. Use of the following slurs in tweets and voice recordings (!)

The p slur for people of Pakistani origin
The p slur for gay men
The g slur for people from the traveller community / of Romany origin

She even combined the two p slurs in one tweet.

@ScreamingMeMe some excellent comments on there though. Concise and informative as opposed to the other comments which essentially just say 'you'll take any chance to run down the SNP!' without actually addressing any of the issues.

[quote Igneococcus]Somebody in the Times comments mentioned this:

www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19570149.holyrood-protesters-face-criminal-prosecution-new-law/[/quote]
Jesus. The totalitarianism keeps on creeping in.