What does she/they actually mean?

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/eleanorbate/halsey-called-out-allure-no-more-press
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"First your writer made a focal point in my cover story my pronouns and you guys deliberately disrespected them by not using them in the article," Halsey wrote.

The musician announced in March that they would be using she/they pronouns going forward, later explaining that while they are happy for people to use either, "the inclusion of 'they,' in addition to 'she,' feels most authentic to me."

"If you know me at all you know what it means to me to express this outwardly," she wrote in an Instagram story at the time.

Despite the fact that Allure's cover story explicitly mentioned Halsey's use of she/they pronouns — and quoted them as saying pronoun preferences are "meant for you to help better understand yourself" — the magazine exclusively used she/her pronouns throughout the profile. It has since been edited to include both she and they pronouns.

While preferences differ for each person, generally when people use multiple pronouns, it is best to use them interchangeably unless they specify otherwise."

So who knows what your colleague wants (apart from attention)

How can you be non-binary (i.e. not identifying as either a man or a woman) and also trans (i.e. a man identifying as a woman or a woman identifying as a man)?

@bocodilloconqueso

My DS told me today that he had a bisexual teacher as they call themselves "Mx" rather than Mr/Ms. I gave some vague explanation about it not meaning bisexual but rather then gender that they choose / don't choose. To which his 9yo brother piped up "but how can you not know what gender you are, you just need to look at your bits!"

He's got that on books timetable?

Tbh ms is still met with ??? and misunderstanding a lot.

Your children should not be talking about teachers sexuality/ taking the piss/ talking about their genitals.

You think that's ok? Good even?

There was a thread on here the other day with those pronouns I think it was.

To do with that those are the most comfy ones.

What I don't get is how the hell anyone is supposed to remember all this. I have enough difficulty with names/ faces.

It's completely disconnected from any situation that involves only knowing or every talking to about 5 people.

It's just fucking ridiculous tbh.

How am I supposed to remember the preferred pronouns of someone I met at a conference 3 months ago and haven't seen since. What if they have changed?

They them for everyone is a change but norm in business for years when presenting etc about roles.

The practicalities are impossible.

If I have a call with someone with non standard pronouns and someone who has never heard of this then what explain beforehand? How long will that take?

Makes about as much sense as an acquaintance of mine calling herself "non-binary femme-presenting trans."

Utter meaningless word salad.

There was a very earnest article about this linked on another thread.

I really want to spare you the minutes you'd never get back reading it so I won't link.

Apparently it's because they are terribly special and fluid and honouring the specialness of their gendery complexity. And stuff.

Someone at my work has done this, she has said she is a lesbian, I did some googling which seemed to say it means ' I'm gay and female but not a female stereotype ' or something, but it all seems ridiculous to me

I have seen some of the multi-pronoun-users actually complaining online because it wasn't good enough for people to use either one of "their" pronouns - no, people were expected to use them both at different times (alternately or randomly, it wasn't clear), otherwise it wasn't validating their extra-special specialness or something. So you end up with sentences like "I gave her the jumper, but they took it home" and are meant to work out that both of those refer to the same person... there is not enough

A friend who does this self identifies as queer, despite being married and only ever having had heterosexual relationships. So I think it may be a way of signalling “queerness” (or- I’m not like other girls 🙄)

I think it’s actually used by people who don’t care, to signal their obedience to the dogma nonetheless.

Does that even work? Did she forget they bag?

I am pretty rubbish at spelling and grammar and it even hurts my eyes / struggles to be said.

And all for words that are used when the person in question isn’t even present.

So mind-numbingly egocentric.

It what circumstances would you use ‘they’ pronouns for someone who doesn’t object to standard pronouns. Why would anyone do that?

I asked teen DD this recently and she said it means the person is happy with she or they pronouns. So you can use she/her or they/them and the person in question will feel validated.

She did roll her eyes a lot whilst explaining. She's quite fed up with the whole thing.

See, that’s what I would do if forced to put my pronouns in.. put something ridiculous and confusing.

Any chance that she’s doing a low level troll?

It means whatever the fool decides it means. “Special” would be my guess.