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bocodilloconqueso · 2021-09-07T20:18:49+00:00

I noticed that a colleague has put ^She/they^ as her (their?) pronouns. I need help to understand this please? I barely know them so don't feel comfortable asking. Particularly as there are always other people around. Can anyone enlighten me? [confused]

TheGirlCat · 09/09/2021 04:26

@ArcheryAnnie

Tomboy is basically a woman who has a brain that is more similar to a man

Are you on glue?

(I've been saving that mumsnet chestnut for years. Can't think a better candidate will ever come along.)

Darn, I was going to say exactly that, but you beat me to it.

therocinante · 09/09/2021 00:07

@Cyberworrier

A friend who does this self identifies as queer, despite being married and only ever having had heterosexual relationships. So I think it may be a way of signalling “queerness” (or- I’m not like other girls 🙄)

You know you can be sexually attracted to women/NB people and still only have dated men, right? Right??????!

Especially considering many queer women don't realise/feel comfortable expressing that they're bi or queer until later in life - thanks, comp het - by which point they may already have chosen to settle down with a man, but which doesn't invalidate their sexuality...?

Signed, a bi women who is married to a man and never openly dated women because she was scared of the response, but who definitely is still sexually attracted to women 😘

GroggyLegs · 08/09/2021 22:41

Being born with male genitals doesn’t mean you hate pink or dolls or emotions. Being born with female genitals doesn’t mean you hate trains, planes and football. Everyone is different. Tomboy is basically a woman who has a brain that is more similar to a man

This statement is a GC soup with Trans ideology croutons.

Bordois · 08/09/2021 22:29

@SazzyB100

Lots of narrow minded and bigoted people here! Genitals refer to your sex whereas gender is on a line. Being born with male genitals doesn’t mean you hate pink or dolls or emotions. Being born with female genitals doesn’t mean you hate trains, planes and football. Everyone is different. Tomboy is basically a woman who has a brain that is more similar to a man. They may think of themselves as male and identify in that way. As for prefixes, it is ridiculous that all men are Mr but women have a prefix related to their marital status. Why? Ms is meant to be similar to Mr. At work we had the option to put a prefix. I chose she/her. I hope it makes others feel more included. Quite why people are making such a big deal about people choosing to be their authentic self I don’t know. What is gender? That is a far more interesting question!

Wow, please tell me more.

How do I know if my brain is male or female?

Cailleach1 · 08/09/2021 22:29

@Newbabynewhouse

Oh holy cow... haha ..

Is that the latest pronoun?

Whitefire · 08/09/2021 22:29

Being born with female genitals doesn’t mean you hate trains, planes and football.

My bits have been fairly good at growing and nourishing babies, I'm not that sure they dictate my interests.

Stopsnowing · 08/09/2021 22:27

“Gender is societal and cultural expectations of how people should behave because of their sex.

The really interesting question is why anyone would suggest that it’s a good idea to categorise individuals by gender.”

This

Fitt · 08/09/2021 22:27

Tomboy is basically a woman who has a brain that is more similar to a man.

Quite amusing to be called bigoted and narrow minded by someone writing this nonsense.

ArcheryAnnie · 08/09/2021 22:27

Tomboy is basically a woman who has a brain that is more similar to a man

Are you on glue?

(I've been saving that mumsnet chestnut for years. Can't think a better candidate will ever come along.)

merrymouse · 08/09/2021 22:21

What is gender? That is a far more interesting question

Gender is societal and cultural expectations of how people should behave because of their sex.

The really interesting question is why anyone would suggest that it’s a good idea to categorise individuals by gender.

merrymouse · 08/09/2021 22:17

@EarringsandLipstick

Tomboy is basically a woman who has a brain that is more similar to a man.

Sorry, what?!

'A brain that is more similar to a man'. Good Lord. What century are you in?

Yes, please do explain this comment. It is almost as though you have found a way to send posts from 1852.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 08/09/2021 22:14

my DH is baking this weekend - perhaps he’s borrowing my female brain to do that?

I’ll be borrowing his male brain to fix the laptop

Or alternatively we could agree gender imposes restrictive stereotypes on men and women and everyone should be free to live as they choose. It’s fine to be a man who Wears dresses and make up rather than insisting that a man who does that must be a woman

EarringsandLipstick · 08/09/2021 22:08

Tomboy is basically a woman who has a brain that is more similar to a man.

Sorry, what?!

'A brain that is more similar to a man'. Good Lord. What century are you in?

SazzyB100 · 08/09/2021 22:07

Lots of narrow minded and bigoted people here! Genitals refer to your sex whereas gender is on a line. Being born with male genitals doesn’t mean you hate pink or dolls or emotions. Being born with female genitals doesn’t mean you hate trains, planes and football. Everyone is different. Tomboy is basically a woman who has a brain that is more similar to a man. They may think of themselves as male and identify in that way. As for prefixes, it is ridiculous that all men are Mr but women have a prefix related to their marital status. Why? Ms is meant to be similar to Mr. At work we had the option to put a prefix. I chose she/her. I hope it makes others feel more included. Quite why people are making such a big deal about people choosing to be their authentic self I don’t know. What is gender? That is a far more interesting question!

Cazzovuoi · 08/09/2021 21:37

Why the fuck does anyone care what people call them when they are not around to hear it?

Woke foolery

merrymouse · 08/09/2021 21:33

Just like I've demonstrated in this reply. It's not hard or complicated

If you switch pronouns mid sentence or mid paragraph the implication is that the subject has changed.

merrymouse · 08/09/2021 21:28

‘They’ is the plural of ‘she/he/it’ in English and is used to refer to everyone and everything when referring to a plural subject.

If the grammar expectation is different here then more explanation is required. At least they/them is clearly subject/object.

MintMe · 08/09/2021 21:28

@Stopsnowing

Isn’t they plural or am I getting muddled

'They' is a non gendered singular reference.

Stopsnowing · 08/09/2021 21:26

Isn’t they plural or am I getting muddled

LobsterNapkin · 08/09/2021 21:19

@anaily

In my post above i used both she and they, it's a non issue.

It sounds like you forgot what you were writing half way through the sentence, like a goldfish.

MintMe · 08/09/2021 21:17

@anaily

It is a non issue, the only issue is the OP who doesn't understand it, the issue isn't the pronouns, the issue is OP not understanding it.

The issue is "you may either use she or they when referencing me in the third person" means, because of linguistic ease, she will always be used. She/they if honestly meant as you can use she OR they will render the 'they' superfluous in 99.9% of conversations.

Newbabynewhouse · 08/09/2021 21:14

What ever happened to good old Tom boys? Surely women can cut their hair and wear tracksuit and watch football without having to be called 'they?' Before I get slated yes I am ignorant to it all cos I think a lot of it is attention seeking and jumping on a woke bandwagon sorry.. we all have out own opinions..

Newbabynewhouse · 08/09/2021 21:09

Oh holy cow... haha ..

EarringsandLipstick · 08/09/2021 21:08

@Bambooshoot

I wouldn’t want someone who calls themselves “Mx” teaching my child.

What a stupid comment to make. How would it have any bearing on their teaching abilities?

anaily · 08/09/2021 21:08

It is a non issue, the only issue is the OP who doesn't understand it, the issue isn't the pronouns, the issue is OP not understanding it.