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Guardian article: “ Judith Butler: ‘We need to rethink the category of woman“

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SuperSleepyBaby · 07/09/2021 19:27

See this article in the Guardian:

www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/sep/07/judith-butler-interview-gender

One of the questions asked was “ It seems that some within feminist movements are becoming sympathetic to these far-right campaigns. This year’s furore around Wi Spa in Los Angeles saw an online outrage by transphobes followed by bloody protests organised by the Proud Boys. Can we expect this alliance to continue?”.....

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 07/09/2021 20:29

Current thread with >100 comments: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4342776-judith-butler-interview

MiladyBerserko · 07/09/2021 20:22

Are you expecting some here to 'identify' with the term which is generally banned on here?

EarthSight · 07/09/2021 20:21

It seems that some within feminist movements are becoming sympathetic to these far-right campaigns

You know, I didn't imagine ten years ago that the Guardian would be making a claim like that, demonising feminists and saying ridiculous things like they're sympathetic to far-right campaigns (as if women's rights were now a domain of the far right instead of the left). It's a lie meant to discredit women who are fighting for their own rights.

I thought that was the domain of misogynists, incels and men on the far right who would prefer us to 'stay in the kitchen', as some of them are fond of saying. Clearly the left have abandoned women's rights.

tilder · 07/09/2021 20:16

Spelling out a phrase rather than writing the acronym is still offensive. Is that term banned?

Fitt · 07/09/2021 20:16

Allies? This has to be one of the dumbest words of recent times.

Anyone telling me I have allies they don't like is automatically without credibility.

CatherinaJTV · 07/09/2021 20:12

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MiladyBerserko · 07/09/2021 20:00

We need to rethink the category of 'academic'

PlanDeRaccordement · 07/09/2021 19:54

Funny no one is complaining about the Texas law banning elective abortions after 6 was having as its language “pregnant woman” all through it. They only cry transphobia in language when it’s a perk, never when it’s oppression.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 07/09/2021 19:51

The wii spa incident that turned out to be true? The bloody protests that saw women harassed and a young man in hospital after an antifa tra stabbed him? What happened to facts? Do they just ignore facts?

OhDear2200 · 07/09/2021 19:46

I’m really confused. So by rethinking the category of woman to allow transwomen and men into the category, do we not just erase the category of woman? Those who want to identify as a woman who are biologically not women have erased the very category they want to join?

littlbrowndog · 07/09/2021 19:42

Who is she speaking to ?

It’s like she’s not aware of how most women live their lives

Just ordinary women living their lives

Cabinfever10 · 07/09/2021 19:41

The word Women should never include anyone except adult human females otherwise it and the entire history of female oppression is erased

OhDear2200 · 07/09/2021 19:37

Nope.
No thank you.

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