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Scotland to go ahead with self-ID? In the name of the wee man...

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KittenKong · 07/09/2021 15:23

I saw a tweet saying that this is so - can’t see anything else though.

Tell me it’s not true...

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Tibtom · 07/09/2021 16:12

I would be interested in Nicola Sturgeon addressing these issues rather than issuing mealy mouthed platitudes.

If you think she will then you have not been paying attention. Mealy mouthed platitudes is her forte.

Waitwhat23 · 07/09/2021 16:08

The First Minister said she understood some people had “sincerely held concerns”, and insisted the changes would not remove any legal protections women currently had.

There was a fair amount of respondents in the analysis who pointed out that the Scottish Government were citing reports and sources in relation to GRA reform which were irrelevant and were using statistics which were either incorrect or were interpreted in a less than impartial way. I would be interested in Nicola Sturgeon addressing these issues rather than issuing mealy mouthed platitudes.

KittenKong · 07/09/2021 16:07

I am actually so pissed off I don’t know what to do with myself. Currently marching up and down the office making frustrated chicken noises.

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 07/09/2021 16:06

I get nervous of writing to my MSPs because I worry I'll miss something out or not be powerful enough to get their attention.

Don't suppose anyone's seen a draft letter or list of key points about why I need my elected representative to be able to define me as a person so he can protect my rights as a citizen?

Fucking raging.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 07/09/2021 16:02

www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/

Write to your MSPs. It's not a done deal yet, there are still lots of stages (I think) that it has to go through, and opportunities to stop it. external.parliament.scot/visitandlearn/Education/18641.aspx

PronounssheRa · 07/09/2021 15:53

@KittenKong

How can this happen? Angry
People voted for the SNP.

They did say this is what they would do.

KittenKong · 07/09/2021 15:44

How can this happen? Angry

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Tibtom · 07/09/2021 15:43

Of course they are. You don't make pathetic apolegetic videos to transideologues because you have voted to allow traumatised injured women who have been violently raped by men to request a female doctor examine them immediately after an assault; have supposedly impartial civil servants insisting more needs to be done to appease political lobbyist; give ministerial positions to arch misogynists; or ignore the abuse directed at your own MSPs because you care about a yone othe than these men.

Crouton19 · 07/09/2021 15:42

If the medical element is removed (presumably a diagnosis of GD) then is the NHS still expected to cover costs of hormones and other treatments to assist transition? Would that all then be down to the individual to pay for? It seems to acknowledge that this is a lifestyle/cosmetic matter rather than alleviating the misery of GD. Or is the process of getting a GRC being treated as separate from medical transition/GD treatment and that anyone may do one without the other?
Perhaps I am getting muddled.

Artichokeleaves · 07/09/2021 15:41

The First Minister said she understood some people had “sincerely held concerns”, and insisted the changes would not remove any legal protections women currently had.

Oh ffs Nicola, who do you think you're fooling.

No, women's sex based rights and spaces cannot simultaneously exist while giving all male people full all entry tickets to them.

Throwing money at VAWG also means bugger all, since by 'women' you mean 'people of either sex' and some of those female people those refuges and crisis centres were fought for, funded by and set up for are now staying in life threatening relationships because they aren't allowed female only spaces and mixed sex spaces are not compatible with their needs.

Anti female politics.

KittenKong · 07/09/2021 15:27

I’m trying to get a hold of my sister to see if she’s heard anything. If you hear a large explosion from Mull, that’s her...

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GreyhoundG1rl · 07/09/2021 15:25
Shock