Self indulgent or what?

But I can imagine in Western funded NGOs in Afghanistan it might be de rigueur or even a status symbol.

Also this person just sounds exhausting: “Lexi Chandra (they/she): I respond to folks who ask me which pronouns to use by not really giving them what they really want, an out. My pronouns are not a preference, therefore I do not “prefer” one set of pronouns more than another set of pronouns.”

What is this antagonistic assumption that “folks” who ask pronouns are looking for an “out”? An out from what ? It honestly just seems like drama creation for the sake of it. We’ve all been told by stonewall that the kind and progressive thing to do is to ask pronouns , but that’s not enough- got to keep the normies on their toes. For me, I just don’t play the game. I act as if pronouns and gender is the most boring thing imaginable and I don’t indulge it (and I do find it boring!)it just shows to me that we can’t win.

Its such a first world problem isn't it.
It is Whatwouldscullydo . I've infinite time for self absorbed teenagers fretting about this stuff - they're so often the centre of their own universes, working out where they fit in the world. But some of these look to be adults?

After 6 months seeing the real challenges that people face in the world I suspect the self indulgent pronouns would be speedily abandoned

Its such a first world problem isn't it.

Only the privileged and indulged have the time and head space to worry about pronouns. Can you imagine a single.mum.of 4 working 2 jobs and still having to choose between heating and food, even giving a shit what her work colleagues call her when she's not even there.

@RoseisMadder it's right about sparking conversation though. A very young colleague of mine who is leaving soon but not nearly soon enough is the first of us to include her pronouns in her email signature and it caused my two colleagues to have the aforementioned T*RFY conversation.

I'm not sanguine though. The time will come when most of those in the management swim in my organisation will be doing this and only whiskery old holdouts like me will still be avoiding the issue. I've no doubt diversity training is on its way, to make sure that any genuine cultural diversity that deviates from Silicon Valley norms is stamped out.

This bit made me laugh”One thing you can rely on, though, is that you won’t be using more than one set at once. (I’ve been writing about pronouns for a minute and have yet to encounter anyone who goes by multiple pronouns simultaneously.)”

Oh, I wouldn’t be so sure about that . I’m sure the demands for simultaneous pronouns are just around the corner. After all, the pop star Halsey had a fit when a magazine used the pronoun “she” when her requested pronouns were “she/her”!

Apparently, 'arriving' at your pronouns can require a lot of 'inner work'
Nah don't think I'll bother thanks

The self-obsession is breathtaking! Bless them and their special words in lieu of a personality

All I can think of is…oh FFS!

Fuck me what a boring bunch of self absorbed twats.

These are people stuck in their teenage years. Limited intellectual, social and emotional development, no careers, limited social conscience or awareness of the global issues in the world, just an inordinate interest in their own narrow perspective.
They could all do with a stint of community service working with those struggling with poverty, abuse, poor housing, refugees, children with special needs, poor mental health and the rest.
After 6 months seeing the real challenges that people face in the world I suspect the self indulgent pronouns would be speedily abandoned.

That is an impressive load of twaddle.

It’s not SELF indulgent, because it’s everyone else having to do the indulging! Pronouns are for use by other people when referring to you.
Indeed.
I think the thing that fucks me off the most about this (among many things that fuck me off a great deal) is the wording 'I use the pronouns...'. No. You don't use them. You demand that everyone else use them.
As far as I'm concerned, the only sensible answer to the question 'what pronouns do you use?' is 'it depends what I'm referring to'.

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So basically here are people who say they want to cherry pick which bits of the patriarchy they want to keep.

I’m a she when in contact. with my. feminine side and working with women. But I’m. a he when negotiating a pay rise or if I expect my pov to be followed wo. question.

Maybe those people should learn about feminism and the elimination of gender.

How bad does it have to get before someone goes " fuck this"

*I have used they because, oh feck it, it is just what English language norms dictate.

Someone I know was emailed this load of gaslighting nonsense
www.cultureamp.com/blog/gender-pronouns-in-workplace?fbclid=IwAR3cQbsoBAXUR3LAdrFa0kRwg4VQRf5HO1C4viF8Zf4DaCqzOxdsXKfxR9s

“Some folks, it should be noted, do not use pronouns at all and instead go by only their name; call them that.”

So that’ll be my answer then when/if I’m asked at a meeting to ‘state your pronouns’ - “I don’t do pronouns, please always refer to me by my name thanks’. And in an email signature I can just put ‘none’. And if this is queried I’ll forward them a copy of this article and tell them to educate themselves

Good Lord what utter wank.

They're all going to cringe themselves inside out when they grow up.