Christine Mboma wins Diamond League 200m

She is intersex which is SO different from male (including trans) shock

No, really do march in here tomorrow edjumacate us all, about something we have discussed in detail on this thread over hundreds of posts. And the descriptor 'intersex' is both outdated and inaccurate.

“Intersex” people are either male or female. Christine is a male, complete with bollocks and everything else that give males physical advantages.

I don’t care how someone “identifies”, anything other than 100% female should NOT be competing with females.

She is intersex which is SO different from male (including trans)

And yet, so different from being female. Do you think they should be competing in the female category?

Disappointed to see you using the outdated term intersex purpleneon rather than the correct term People with Disorders of Sexual Development.

It has been evidenced repeatedly in this thread that the DSD Mboma has is one that only males can have. Mboma is a male with a disorder of sexual development, they are not a woman

You are correct that DSD is fuck all to do with trans

She is intersex which is SO different from male (including trans)

Also, who was the female athlete who didn't get to compete?

So the fourth placed athlete was denied 3000 dollars for her rightful place

worth noting that all winners in the Diamond League Final are guaranteed a place in next year's World Championships.

also - prize money for DL final
1st $30,000
2nd $12,000
3rd $7,000
4th $4'000
5th $2'500
6th $2'000
7th $1'500
8th $1'000

Mboma has just won the Diamond League final - breaking the junior world record that Mboma already held

They other athletes might be invisible because they are women.

The majority of the finalists in the Diamond League 200m final were black female athletes @VladmirsPoutine, but the top prize money was taken by a male athlete with a DSD condition. I genuinely don’t know why anyone thinks this is acceptable.

Hence the need for clear language.

What about the Black women who lose spots to the cheating men?!?! Does no one care about them? Why aren't there scouts looking for Black women in Namibia who could certainly benefit from prize monies?

I have strong suspicions of athletes (past and present) of various ethnicities being XY DSDs though.

I would also note that it is black athletes (Jackson, Asher-Smith) who have been similarly displaced in sponsorship/prize money terms by the placings in this race.

Yep, this place is renowned for being soft on white males...

Mboma and semenya were raised and socialised female due to their dsd

I don't know about Mboma but Semenya definitely wasn't. Thé only place they consider themselves to be female is on the track.

Such a coincidence that it's always Black women infringing these rules. Perhaps they should identify as white so they could be left alone to continue winning races.

Are you suggesting that we wouldn't be complaining that 2 black women had been deprived of prize money, if the athlete beating them had been a white male with a DSD?

You know skin pigment is only skin deep. Whereas a different skeletal configuration, organ set up, and a body which has benefitted from the androgenising effects of male levels of testosterone gives a naturally superior set of advantages to males over females.

The analogy of men competing against women (of whatever hue) is that of a motorcycle in a bicycle race. Not a green bicycle competing against a red bicycle.

Your attempt at a sly little smear is the equivalent of casting aside the very real disadvantage people on bicycles objecting to a harley davidson winning the tour de France. And saying to all the cyclists that they are all really bigoted because the harley davidson motorbike is green. Not the real reason which would be because it is a bl**dy motorbike with an engine cheating people on bicycles..

so why didn't I play men's and lady's doubles?

I think a lot of men will be increasingly asking themselves this.

Why shouldn't they? If all these other men are doing it, are they chumps to be missing out on the relatively easy competition?

There are still some events without male competitors - some individuals could clean up.

And even in the events with male presence - 1 outside-top-500 male to beat is far easier than a field full of elite males.

*When it was suggested World Athletics could broaden the range of events covered by it's controversial testosterone limits, Niyonsaba joked she was ready to switch again.

"I can go to pole vault! Or high jump!" she added.*

It's not really a joke though is it. With a small amount of training to get the most rudimentary jump technique, Niyonsaba could probably kick the shit out of all the females in the women's competition in both events. And the long jump. And the triple jump. And the steeplechase. And all the hurdles distances. Any event which doesn't have another male competing in it basically.

Such a coincidence that it's always Black women infringing these rules. Perhaps they should identify as white so they could be left alone to continue winning races.

Ekofisk

Sorry about that, it is just this subject which really gets me riled. From an early age I was sports mad, played a lot of different sports to a reasonable standard, played mixed doubles tennis and badminton, so why didn't I play men's and lady's doubles? Well there is a straightforward answer based in common sense, which the leaders of many sporting organisations seem unable to fathom. The truth is, that their policies (inclusivity mainly) have been unduly influenced by lobby groups, sometimes lobby groups which have recently been questioned and discredited.
The following lists the people involved in British Cycling's "Diversity and Inclusion Advisory Group"

www.britishcycling.org.uk/about/article/20210205-about-bc-news-British-Cycling-names-members-of-new-Diversity-and-Inclusion-Advisory-Group-0

I could go through most major sports organisations and find something very similar. Under the banner of diversity and inclusion, there is one group they do not mind harming, that group is 51% of the population.
They are called women.