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School of sexuality Education

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happydappy2 · 01/09/2021 16:44

Oh dear-just had an email from my Childs school & the above org are delivering sex ed-having looked on their website a 6th form student has written "“I really like how the workshop remained inclusive and it was acknowledged that not all people with boobs/vaginas are female or that penis=male.”

Anyone had any dealings with with organisation please? Seems a very odd message to deliver to school children...

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anaily · 12/09/2021 12:33

*"They have learnt that the terms female and male have nothing to do with biology.

In what way is that good?"*

Because they will be educated about transgender, non binary and gender diverse people. With that education they won't end up on forums asking what trans or non binary means, the volume of posts on this forum alone is evidence that LGBT+ inclusive education is vital and should be part of the core modules. It will avoid a generation of people asking what to do when their ~insert relation~ comes out, it will avoid fracturing relationships when someone does come out as they will understand them. It will help those struggling with their own feelings to understand themselves.

Flamglimglubberty · 11/09/2021 21:25

Surely sex education needs to be biologically accurate... How else will kids learn about puberty, reproduction, and contraception?

If a young female believes she's a boy with a vagina, that's all good and well, but she still needs to understand that if someone (regardless of how they identify) inserts a penis into it there's a chance she could get pregnant. Saying you're a boy doesn't absolve you of all the inherent risks of being female.

Plain and simple language is important, especially when it comes to reproductive health.

Keep the inclusive stuff separate, and just stick to the facts.

AssassinatedBeauty · 11/09/2021 21:18

@thisplaceisweird

Allowing your children to learn a range of perspectives and keep an open mind and be respectful of all people will never be a bad thing
As long as it's presented as opinion or belief, not fact. And as long as discussion and questioning is allowed without fear of consequences for speaking accurately wrt biology.
NiceGerbil · 11/09/2021 21:17

From the links-

'Following this, the student teachers heard from Lucy Emmerson (director of the Sex Education Forum) and Rachael Baker (senior RSE specialist at the Sex Education Forum) who discussed the government 2020 RSE guidance and interrogated the idea of ‘age-appropriateness’ in RSE'

Sounds interesting...

NiceGerbil · 11/09/2021 21:15

@anaily

How is inclusive education "very odd"? I think it's great.
They have learnt that the terms female and male have nothing to do with biology.

In what way is that good?

Woman/ girl are not allowed so often now.
Female/ male are on the way out by the looks of it.

Do children not need to have any terms for the main grouping of humans? Baby ones and knob ones?

OhHolyJesus · 11/09/2021 21:14

Being aware of who and what your child is exposed to at school, especially if it breaches statutory government guidelines and poses a safeguarding risk, is never a bad thing.

thisplaceisweird · 11/09/2021 21:10

Allowing your children to learn a range of perspectives and keep an open mind and be respectful of all people will never be a bad thing

OhHolyJesus · 11/09/2021 21:08

Pressed send too quickly

More here

www.diverseeducators.co.uk/sexplain/

Their company info including people involved and those who have resigned (and rejoined)
find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/10625640/officers

A resource they share and support:
‘More than boy, girl, male, female’: exploring young people’s views on gender diversity within and beyond school contexts
Sara Bragg, Emma Renold, Jessica Ringrose & Carolyn Jackson

discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/10045420/9/Ringrose_More%20than%20boy%20girl%20male%20female%20exploring%20young%20people%20s%20views%20on%20gender%20diversity%20within%20and%20beyond%20school%20contexts.pdf

OhHolyJesus · 11/09/2021 20:51

They used to be called Sexplain. I've just checked out their Instagram. They support all menstruators and their team have a lots of pronouns.

schoolofsexed.org/team

Their blog has this

schoolofsexed.org/blog-articles/2020/3/19

AssassinatedBeauty · 11/09/2021 19:40

@anaily

How is inclusive education "very odd"? I think it's great.

The student commenting has mistaken content that is utterly biologically illiterate and misleading as "inclusive". Try writing in a Biology GCSE or A Level that human beings with a penis could be male or female and see how well that turns out. Total nonsense that shouldn't be delivered to students.

OhHolyJesus · 11/09/2021 19:29

You can withdraw your child from sex education up until the term before they turn 16.

This isn't an org I know about but would advise you to look at the resources page of safe schools alliance and ask the Head why this org was chosen, when you can see the materials and when they intend to consult with parents prior to children receiving these lessons.

anaily · 11/09/2021 16:54

How is inclusive education "very odd"?
I think it's great.

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