Do we have it anywhere on record that Stonewall does/does not support people to express their sexuality as exclusively homosexual?

What does 'woman' mean in the definition "A woman is someone born male who has transitioned to being a woman"?

1. it’s recursive. ❌

2. please try to define “man” now.

I'm not desperate for anything. I've always said I'll wait to see the evidence before making my opinion.

Charging is not the same as convicting.

Further you might like to note the comments of her Counsel:

The second is that the communication charges are not compatible with guidelines, so it’s not appropriate to plead with.

Maybe you'd like to have a think about what not compatible with guidelines might mean. This is not the slam dunk you are so desperate for it to be.

Which was the racist preference anyway? 'I only date asians'?

Being 'charged' doesn't mean 'committing'.

For anyone unsure of one of the very basic truths of the world - humans are sexually dimorphic. Male or female. And it is not possible to change one's sex.

It really shouldn't be even slightly controversial to say this.

Answer 1 is correct.

Answer 2 is a logical fallacy. A male cannot be a female, by definition.

I see Marion Millar has weeesht. These new suffragettes are rubbish.

Marion Millar is obeying the law, and her case has opened a lot of eyes to this nonsense.

You know, thinking about it, I think I prefer a shifting constellation. At least it's something to look at.

An adult human male, of or denoting the sex who produces sperm, cannot become an adult human female, of or denoting the sex who produces eggs.

Your definition is relying on something that's impossible.

Yes, the logic is...

I see Marion Millar has weeesht. These new suffragettes are rubbish.

You what now?

It will be just like the lack of the answer to why you believe you have the authority to speak for transwomen. Because, you keep giving us the 'opinion' of the majority and of the minority. Where are you getting this information, and if there is no evidence to support it, why have you felt you have any authority to make such claims.

And just to short circuit the 'where have I said that' as suggestions did, I will add them here.

Who expects this? Not the vast majority of trans people. It's a bullshit myth put around by transphobes.

I said 'most' I know there are small minority of trans women who say stuff like this and I disagree with them totally, as do most other trans women. Twitters a big place, you can find that small minority there. Got any evidence that it's more than a handful?

Again, the initial statement made it sound as this was official trans policy, It's not, which is why I feel obliged to post, and I ask you for any evidence that it's more than a very small minority of trans women with penises saying 'you must find my penis attractive, lesbians.'

Again, any evidence it's more than a tiny minority. Without misrepresenting what people like Riley Dennis has said.

My first post said the vast majority of trans women don't think this. Which means there is a tiny minority that do. There is no inconsistency. Are you just wasting my time, or can't you read?

Where are you getting this information from that you feel that you can confidently speak on behalf of the 'majority' of trans people?

The second one is impossible.

An adult human male, of or denoting the sex who produces sperm, cannot become an adult human female, of or denoting the sex who produces eggs.

Your definition is relying on something that's impossible.

A unicorn is something that was born a dog but transitions to become a unicorn.

Hey presto!!!

I think it would be more beneficial to Marion (and us all, however we feel about this one issue) for the case to be dropped on human rights grounds, personally. If the suffragettes had had that possibility I'm sure they would have taken it.

Female people are well within their right to not "do dick" as long as they don't be too vocal about it.

No keep going Bilinda please do, this is fascinating.

Talking of your feminism, I asked whether you regretted endorsing an argument that the man in the LGB t-shirt had provoked the crowd because of what he was wearing, after I pointed out it was a carbon copy of the traditional arguments that women provoke men into raping them, because of what they're wearing.

I never expected to see a "s/he was asking for it, dressed like that" post on mumsnet's feminism section, and it was sickening to see you hadn't made the connection, as you quoted it with approval.

Have you rethought it now?

What does "transitioning to be a woman" involve? How is someone not born female a woman or do you genuinely feel it's up to the individual to decide their sex?

Definition of a woman.

1.Adult human female.

1. Someone born male who has transitioned to being a woman.

I think we've wandered off-topic somewhat.

I see Marion Millar has weeesht. These new suffragettes are rubbish.

Good point, nauticant

"Period". But that's a bit exclusionary.