Gay man 'bullied' off Manchester Pride for wearing LGB Alliance hat and t-shirt

Most of these 'down with swerfs' types haven't given it a second thought beyond 'you go girl' / 'empowerment.'

Agree. They have some vague idea that regulation could be improved, without any understanding that the people who control the money won’t tolerate any reduction in profits. There always seems to be a strange disconnect where capitalism must end, except for this one industry.

giraffe please don't post images of someone's Facebook, it's likely to get the thread deleted if it looks like it's going down the path of personal attacks.
I'll pm you.

When the Westboro Baptist Church go on their regular protests with their 'God hates....' signs etc, they are largely left to get on with it. Why? Because the best way to deal with them is for them to expose their hideousness for all the world to see, let everyone see how crazy they are.

There is very good reason why TRAs are shit scared of the LGBA, why David Paisley and friends are still rabidly trying to get their charity status removed, why people wearing t-shirts simply bearing the name will be hounded out. Because people aren't looking at the LGBA and seeing hateful batshittery, they are seeing something else entirely, so the only option is to try and drown out what they are saying by shouting louder, to shut down, to divert, to silence,...

Same for JK Rowling, for Mumsnet, for women putting up stickers or ribbons, for Keira Bell. The very same 'do not let the message get out, stop it at all costs' tactic applies. Because once it gets out, and it is getting out, the house of cards completely collapses.

Never EVER give in to terfs. They are killing our friends.

The message seems to be that trans people should believe that their lives aren’t worth living without universal external validation of identity.

That isn’t possible for anyone, and to suggest that it should be expected is irresponsible and cruel.

Good to know that she spends zero time thinking about the reality of it. Surveys find something like 89% of women in the sex trade want to leave it.

Most of these 'down with swerfs' types haven't given it a second thought beyond 'you go girl' / 'empowerment.'

It comes over as quite manic. When you have reached the point where you will shout at a gay man in the street in comfort because you have an angry mob behind you egging you on you have clearly lost control of yourself.

I don't doubt that some young people who are involved in any way in the conflict of identity may have suicidal tendencies, but the angry women like April who are laying these mental health problems on same sex attracted people are mistaken.

Sooner or later there has to be a recognition that being transsexual is not completely compatible with same sex attraction in order for young women like April to realise she can't just shout people into changing who they are.

I know it's normal for young people to be idealistic. She's not just that though, she's slipped over into nasty.

she has a bag saying non terfs no swerfs

So she excludes prostituted women and their freedom to find a way to feed their children without "sex work" from her liberalism.

Good to know that she spends zero time thinking about the reality of it. Surveys find something like 89% of women in the sex trade want to leave it.

Never mind the fact of the high comorbity with MH problems.

No, its GC women killing them you know and if you give them a sandwich itll be fine.

Why are people always told encouraged to give stuff to those who are trans?

To be fair she has always said she is bi so dunno where this queer thing has come from

One thing I actually noticed this year was that there were men's toilets and unisex toilets. No women only.

It wasn't an issue for me as if you need to go you need to go but I felt for the women who this wasn't an option for or who were uncomfortable about those being the only options. Not that it made any difference everything seemed unisex and people were all very kind and accommodating about it all.

I don't know what the solution is.

Make them the biggest sandwich and this is the calibre of Lib Dems.

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It its gnc people who would take the pain i dont know why you would ignore them and make trans folk a sandwich instead

'Terfs coming for me and my family but we gotta hold up because more of our non gender conforming friends are gonna take the pain, disproportionately- look after your trans friends. Check in. Buy them stuff. Make them the biggest sandwich.

Let them play with your pets.

Anything'

Here is an example:

'We are about to start pride knowing another one of our trans friends has committed suicide.

Numb and weirdly unsurprised. I’m angry more than anything.

Never EVER give in to terfs. They are killing our friends.

Any gender critical folk here, remove me. I am so beside myself with anger - so madden by the cruelty of this all I can’t condone your lack of compassion and utter hateful nonsense. No more.'

Weaponising suicide. Awful.

She is beloved in the lib dems, she has a bag saying non terfs no swerfs. She will not change her views anytime soon, they give her leverage in the party and have helped her onto the federal board of all things.

I wish i could post images but my account is new so it tells me no!

It's bizarre isn't it: straight woman incites homophobic bullying of a gay man at Pride - and she's the one that's applauded.

Is there some sort of time machine in Canal St that takes people back to 1978?

The point many are missing is that it is the very fact that a person wearing that specific t-shirt, not any other, no other organisation or belief, is what shows clearly that it was an attack on someone who supports gay rights and not trans rights. A homophobic attack, an assault, no matter whether or not the CPS would choose to prosecute or not (much like rape, maybe not surprisingly).

So much double think going on. Mental gymnastics and not a clean routine to be seen.

You are so right Curious and it is so bloody tiresome that this is where we are.

On another thread, we've found out that women were banned from seeing an event at this year's Manchester Pride.

It's not the first time either is it?

A hideous gay bloke wanted lesbians "dragging out by their saggy tits" at a previous Manchester Pride.

Manchester Pride - not safe for same sex attracted people unless you are willing to pretend that you will have sex with the opposite sex.

We need LGB alliance.

But if the aggressor knew who LGBA were, and yelled at the person because they disagreed with their support for the aims and focus of LGBA, that is not homophobic, because that comes down to a disagreement on views, not a hatred of the person for simply being gay.

It's definitely hatred for being the wrong sort of gay though isn't it? He's made it clear that he's not going to be receptive to females who identify as men, and that was enough to incite a mob to threatening behaviour.

What is being said here is that it agressive political retaliation is inevitable if you publicly identify as only male attracted at Pride.

The woman who shouted at him April, is apparently a queer heterosexual! So we are at a place where a woman who might have snogged a woman is unable to stop herself from shouting at a man who is publicly showing evidence of his male only sexuality.

I'm really rather appalled at this stage we are at.

I hope April grows up soon and becomes a lot more accepting of same sex attracted people as she's tyrannically anti at the moment.