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Gay man 'bullied' off Manchester Pride for wearing LGB Alliance hat and t-shirt

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/08/2021 08:21

LibDem activist delighted by this. Here are two of her tweets. The gay man who turned up in an LGB hat and t-shirt was allegedly advised by police to leave for his own safety and seems to have had the hat stolen.

Another young fool tweeted that 'bullying the guy in the LGB Alliance shirt who came to the protest march is my favourit part of Pride so far xx'. He has since deleted this (possibly because he is now sober and/or has seen how many people had reported this to his employers) and now claims he was just chanting 'Trans lives matter!'. 'Bullying' is an odd choice of words for this. How could anyone think admitting publicly to 'bullying' was a good look?

The LGB Alliance man has been advised that people shouting at him is actually assault if he wants to take it further. Doesn't sound like he does, though.

Unedifying, to say the least.

Gay man 'bullied' off Manchester Pride for wearing LGB Alliance hat and t-shirt
Gay man 'bullied' off Manchester Pride for wearing LGB Alliance hat and t-shirt
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YouJustDoYou · 29/08/2021 15:16

They're so toxic, these activists/extremists. They love shouting 'bigot' at anyone they disagree with, and don't even realise that it is in factthemthat are the bigots. Intolerant, homophobic, misogynist bullies who just cannot see how poisonous and deranged they look to everyone not in their bubble.

Homophobic hate crimes happening and actually being cheered on at Pride. You couldn't make it up.

These utter clowns are dragging us backwards, and are doing absolutely nothing for 'trans rights

This, exactly. They're doing nothing for trans rights, and promoting hatred of women, lesbians, and gay people. It's frightening that they are allowed free reign in their dictatorship.

TheWeeDonkey · 29/08/2021 15:08

@PlanDeRaccordement

He was escorted away by two police officers, which some have taken as evidence that the police removed him from the march, but this appears to be wrong.

I agree with you OP. The police didn’t remove him from the march. I saw in video that he approached the police and you can hear him asking them for an escort as the crowd was being very hostile and I saw something thrown at him...looked like a bit of crumpled paper.

Fucking hell that is disgraceful, it really makes me feel quite sick. WTF is wrong with people?
Window1 · 29/08/2021 15:07

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

A gay man went to Manchester Pride. He wore a hat and a t-shirt which said LGB Alliance on the front. LGB Alliance is a registered charity for lesbians, gay men and bisexual people. It's been formed because Stonewall now represents trans and 'queer' people as well as LGB people (only since 2015, I think, so not that long ago), and the T and Q interests are seen by many to dominate. Some people have decided LGB Alliance is a hate group because it doesn't campaign for trans rights. This young man was surrounded by a mob yelling 'Trans lives matter!' and decided to leave. His hat was taken off his head and he didn't get it back. He was escorted away by two police officers, which some have taken as evidence that the police removed him from the march, but this appears to be wrong.

That's what happened, @Window1, as far as I can make out. There's a video clip on the thread.

Thanks for that. You almost couldn't make it up. One of THE places that should be safe and open.
JustGotHere · 29/08/2021 15:06

As an American I am apalled at how brazenly they appropriated BLM and that just hearing that chant, in that accent.. Jesus. Aint nobody busting in their doors in the middle of the night on a no-knock warrant and massacring them in their beds. How dare they steal that cry of pain in service of their fancy British problems.

TooWicked · 29/08/2021 15:04

@NonnyMouse1337

I think it's best to leave Pride to the homophobes and the animal and baby fetishists.

Better for lesbians, gay men and bisexual people to have our own marches and events.

Kind of what I said in my deleted comment. Grin

From some of the images I’ve seen from Pride events, I think it’s probably better to not be associated (with those images).

Jorriss · 29/08/2021 15:04

I don't think they need to out themselves. It's pretty obvious what kind of person they are from the kind of behaviour they are supporting

True.

NonnyMouse1337 · 29/08/2021 15:03

Or is the answer so unpalatable that you don't want to out yourself here?

I don't think they need to out themselves. It's pretty obvious what kind of person they are from the kind of behaviour they are supporting.

Jorriss · 29/08/2021 15:01

Better for lesbians, gay men and bisexual people to have our own marches and events

Yes. I agree. Pride seems to be pretty tainted now. Need something new that is not homophobic and actually supports the LGB.

RedDogsBeg · 29/08/2021 15:01

@NonnyMouse1337

I think it's best to leave Pride to the homophobes and the animal and baby fetishists.

Better for lesbians, gay men and bisexual people to have our own marches and events.

Would seem so Nonny.
Jorriss · 29/08/2021 14:56

Why do you support homophobia?"

Enough of the loaded questions, thanks.

It's not a loaded question. It's a pretty simple question. You appear to be happy that transpeople made a gay man unsafe at pride. That stinks of homophobia to me. I am asking you why you seem to support homophobia? And if you don't support homophobia, why are you supporting how this gay man was treated?

Why don't you want to answer the question?

Are you unable to answer the question?

Or is the answer so unpalatable that you don't want to out yourself here?

NonnyMouse1337 · 29/08/2021 14:56

I think it's best to leave Pride to the homophobes and the animal and baby fetishists.

Better for lesbians, gay men and bisexual people to have our own marches and events.

RedDogsBeg · 29/08/2021 14:51

@MargaritaPie

"Why do you support homophobia?"

Enough of the loaded questions, thanks.

Can't answer or won't answer my questions?

Let's try another couple:

Why is it anti-trans to advocate for the right, which is enshrined in Law, to be same sex attracted to be upheld?

Why is it anti-trans for a legally registered charity to advocate for those who are same sex attracted to have their legal rights upheld?

Why is it anti-trans to exclude from the above people for whom the above does not apply?

littlbrowndog · 29/08/2021 14:47

That Lib Dem woman needed a mob behind here to attack that man

What sort of person would do that

Hateful cowardly and homophobic person would do that

CuriousaboutSamphire · 29/08/2021 14:44

@MargaritaPie

"Why do you support homophobia?"

Enough of the loaded questions, thanks.

But it isn't a loaded question.

It's the same as you asking any GC poster here why they hate trans people.

Swings, roundabouts

OvaHere · 29/08/2021 14:41

This is just horrifying. The absolute glee some people are demonstrating in hounding this man presumably because he wants to signal his right to same sex attraction.

I don't know how they don't see what they've become.

I expect an awful lot of observers will be noting it for what it is as the video is shared to a wider audience.

FloralBunting · 29/08/2021 14:38

Window1 a gay man, wearing a t-shirt and hat with the logo of a charity specifically for LGB people was escorted away from a Pride march for his own safety because they started shouting at him about trans people and stole his hat.

Some very impressive and progressive people are saying he deserved it because as a gay man who thinks homosexuals and bisexuals have issues separate from trans demands, and indeed that the two are often in conflict, he is a wicked bigot who should be hounded from public spaces.

These are the same charmers who can be found all over the place telling homosexuals to get over our 'genital preferences' or stay closeted and insisting we be called qu**r whether we like it or not.

You can make your own mind up about which camp you're in. I'll be standing with LGB Alliance and telling the homophobes to piss off.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/08/2021 14:36

Burns is not very bright at all.

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wellbehavedwomen · 29/08/2021 14:35

(Sorry, that was to blueberry's stupid claim that a registered charity is a hate group.)

NonnyMouse1337 · 29/08/2021 14:35

[quote Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g]Of course Talcum is delighted. twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1431924152215252992?s=20[/quote]
Everyone knows Talcum X would never sleep with a transman. The gender zealots don't seem to care about that for some reason.

PlanDeRaccordement · 29/08/2021 14:34

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

This one, Rufus?
Obviously the tweeter hasn’t watched the video or is trying to change the narrative from “bullying a terf until he left” to “random idiot left because he objected to a trans lives matter chant”

He was being called “asshole” in the video and had his hat snatched off his head.

wellbehavedwomen · 29/08/2021 14:34

The Charity Commission agreed that LGB Alliance has reasonable aims which serve the public good. The complaints from eg Mermaids were dismissed as being unfounded.

There are charities solely serving trans purposes, and that's as it should be. Everyone has a right to having their interests as a group furthered appropriately. What I don't fathom is why charities serving solely LGB purposes should be demonised - which is also happening to charities seeking solely to serve women, as defined by sex.

It's not okay to try to silence and harass people simply for collectively organising to defend their own best interests and rights.

PlanDeRaccordement · 29/08/2021 14:32

He was escorted away by two police officers, which some have taken as evidence that the police removed him from the march, but this appears to be wrong.

I agree with you OP. The police didn’t remove him from the march. I saw in video that he approached the police and you can hear him asking them for an escort as the crowd was being very hostile and I saw something thrown at him...looked like a bit of crumpled paper.

Jorriss · 29/08/2021 14:29

Yes it really does remind me of Orwell's two minutes of hate as well. Very disturbing.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/08/2021 14:29

A gay man went to Manchester Pride. He wore a hat and a t-shirt which said LGB Alliance on the front. LGB Alliance is a registered charity for lesbians, gay men and bisexual people. It's been formed because Stonewall now represents trans and 'queer' people as well as LGB people (only since 2015, I think, so not that long ago), and the T and Q interests are seen by many to dominate. Some people have decided LGB Alliance is a hate group because it doesn't campaign for trans rights. This young man was surrounded by a mob yelling 'Trans lives matter!' and decided to leave. His hat was taken off his head and he didn't get it back. He was escorted away by two police officers, which some have taken as evidence that the police removed him from the march, but this appears to be wrong.

That's what happened, @Window1, as far as I can make out. There's a video clip on the thread.

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Window1 · 29/08/2021 14:19

I don't get it? Feeling confused by this thread. Anyone explain in plain English what has happened.

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