Gay man 'bullied' off Manchester Pride for wearing LGB Alliance hat and t-shirt

Good point.

It's not gender non cornforming for a male to be sexually attracted to women and attempt to coerce us into sex, people, even by claiming they are lesbians too.

That as stereotypically male behaviour as you can get.

How on earth is trans gnc anyway. They are opposites.

[quote trancepants]**@Yourstupidityexhaustsme* That man can walk so freely due to the actions of members of the trans community like Marsha P. Johnson who was a pioneer for both gay rights and AIDS awareness.*

You know this isn't true right? 1. Johnson was absolutely in no way pivotal in starting the Stonewall riot. That was a lesbian woman. And 2. Johnson WAS NOT TRANS!!!!!! I mean it's supposed to be literal violence to deliberately misgender someone but despite the fact that Johnson actually specified that he was absolutely not a transwoman, it's been decided that he didn't know his own identity and can be called trans all the time now that he's dead so can't keep correcting people! He was a gay man.[/quote]
They do love to re-write history in their favour. Can't allow facts to get in the way of their rebranding.

They chant 'don't deny my existence' and then routinely deny anyone else doing the same.

They say 'people are who they say they are' but they mean, 'people are who we say they are', authoritarian much?

One of APs recent posts says that trans people are gender non conforming and brave.

No. Brave would be to be gnc but live proudly as your natal sex.

His Wikipedia page goes to painful efforts to avoid saying "he" at all costs.

"Johnson this and Johnson that."

Seriously, please read the article I posted if you haven't.

The bloody cheek of all the woke whining about colonialism while superimposing an inaccurate gloss of US history over the UK campaign for equal lesbian and gay rights is really fucking me off.

@FloralBunting

Despicable cuntery

Love this. I feel a name change coming on...

Marsha P Johnson wasnt bloody trans.

I cant bear this transwashing of history.

Plus… they were American. Manchester is in the UK. British gay rights don’t depend on US arguments.

@Yourstupidityexhaustsme That man can walk so freely due to the actions of members of the trans community like Marsha P. Johnson who was a pioneer for both gay rights and AIDS awareness.

You know this isn't true right? 1. Johnson was absolutely in no way pivotal in starting the Stonewall riot. That was a lesbian woman. And 2. Johnson WAS NOT TRANS!!!!!! I mean it's supposed to be literal violence to deliberately misgender someone but despite the fact that Johnson actually specified that he was absolutely not a transwoman, it's been decided that he didn't know his own identity and can be called trans all the time now that he's dead so can't keep correcting people! He was a gay man.

Alex was part of the protest, which incidentally about the corporate hypocrisy in Pride events and promotions. He did not go to provoke, he went as part of the march, and if you watch footage from earlier you can see him walking along talking with a friend in the middle of the march. He wore a t shirt and hat with the logo of a charity specifically for people with the two minority sexualities, homosexuality and bisexuality.

He did not go to provoke, he is a gay man with an interest in corporations using LGBTQ+ marketing and giving very little back.

So how about people stop fucking lying about him and LGB Alliance, and stop supporting homophobic bullying? Despicable cuntery.

Childish
And narcisstic. They seem to have the bizarre notion that they must be included in everything, and no one can do anything without them, ever.
The writing was on the wall when we saw the meltdowns over the pink pussy hats on the Women's marches a few years ago. They literally couldn't believe that women can express ourselves without, not just including, but centering them.
This is an extension of that. They started with lesbians, then women generally and now moved onto gay men.

TRAs promote a notion of "belief" and "validation" and "existence".

No one who is gender critical or a member of LGBA is saying that trans is a fiction. This is just a bullshit argument. Saying trans people "exist" or are "valid" is such a pointless thing to say. No one says otherwise. Christ, we could hardly be mistaken about their existence when they never shut up. They'd like to have everyone believe that gay and trans people who support LGBA don't exist however. Funny that.

GC people argue that there is a push from certain trans people and their self-identified (ever-widening umbrella of) queer allies, to demand what they see as "rights" which are above and beyond the rights of other groups of people and which trample upon the rights of these other groups.

They demand trans privilege and when they don't get it they say we are "denying their existence", i.e. Look at me! Look at me! I'm over here! You're not looking at meeeeee!

Childish.

As Grombles has said Of course you can “drop a letter” now it’s LGBTetc a whole lot of letters are being dropped- including by the posters saying he’s in the wrong for supporting the LGBA.

If you’re truly inclusive you should be asking about the Q and the I and all the others shoehorned in.

The question should be why does stating support for an organisation supporting same sex attraction and doesn’t focus gender identity garner such a reaction?

And why has such a violent reaction been judged as acceptable? Worthy of praise even?

So what if he went looking for a reaction? The question should be why does stating support for an organisation supporting same sex attraction and doesn’t focus gender identity garner such a reaction?

Yes HeddaAga the victim blaming is repulsive.

For the avoidance of doubt: there are posters on this thread who are justifying and condoning an assault on and theft from a gay man because of what he was wearing

As PurgatoryofPotholes said - where have we heard that before, who do we still hear it from?

Lots of people don't believe in bisexuality.

What on earth does that even mean? Some people are sexually attracted to both sexes. That’s just a fact that remains true regardless of belief.

It is acceptable in the above posters eyes to attack someone because of the clothes they are wearing.

So would the abusive mob be still justified if a person watched them and maybe followed them a bit wearing a t-shirt that said ‘I am proud and straight’ or something?

Or is this particular angry mob justified in being violent if they see anything they don’t agree with. Because why?

Why does this group get the entitlement to behave in this way?

If posters supporting this behaviour don’t see they have effectively mandated that this group has rights above everyone else to never be exposed to something that they disagree with, they must be very entrenched.

There is no well thought out argument for supporting that behaviour. There is no tenable reason to support it. You (general you) either think one single person (a gay man at a pride event in the case) cannot have a different opinion or you think this group of people cannot be expected to behave in a reasonable fashion. Ever.

I am not sure which is worse?

And, for clarity, people waving rainbow flags or pink-white-and-blue flags are also not asking for it, and that does not justify assaulting them, no matter how offensive anyone finds them, or if anyone believes they are "looking for a reaction".