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Gay man 'bullied' off Manchester Pride for wearing LGB Alliance hat and t-shirt

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/08/2021 08:21

LibDem activist delighted by this. Here are two of her tweets. The gay man who turned up in an LGB hat and t-shirt was allegedly advised by police to leave for his own safety and seems to have had the hat stolen.

Another young fool tweeted that 'bullying the guy in the LGB Alliance shirt who came to the protest march is my favourit part of Pride so far xx'. He has since deleted this (possibly because he is now sober and/or has seen how many people had reported this to his employers) and now claims he was just chanting 'Trans lives matter!'. 'Bullying' is an odd choice of words for this. How could anyone think admitting publicly to 'bullying' was a good look?

The LGB Alliance man has been advised that people shouting at him is actually assault if he wants to take it further. Doesn't sound like he does, though.

Unedifying, to say the least.

Gay man 'bullied' off Manchester Pride for wearing LGB Alliance hat and t-shirt
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Bordois · 30/08/2021 13:16

seriously demented

Nice.

Bordois · 30/08/2021 13:13

So what you're saying is, just go over there and be Trans in the corner by yourselves. We don't want anything to do with you lot. How inclusive.

There are numerous groups that exclusively support trans issues only. Why can your child not get the support they need from these groups that have the specialist knowledge to help?

FloralBunting · 30/08/2021 13:13

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RedDogsBeg · 30/08/2021 13:11

Everyone assuming we are raging homophobes is seriously demented

So prove you are not, because what is happening to same sex attracted men and women under the auspices of Trans Rights is homophobic.

I'm bowing out of here now as this is truly horrible

What's truly horrible is a gay man being attacked at a Pride event for the clothes he was wearing and the mere fact that he is signalling he is same sex attracted and people are condoning and celebrating this attack.

If you cannot see how utterly horrendous and homophobic that is then that is seriously demented (to use your own words).

Quaggersx · 30/08/2021 13:09

Everyone assuming we are raging homophobes is seriously demented. I'm bowing out of here now as this is truly horrible

Well that didn't take long did it. Much better to stay and engage with the issues.

I have a question for you. If a transwomen identifies as a lesbian, do you think lesbians are transphobic for rejecting them as a sexual partner?

FloralBunting · 30/08/2021 13:08

This clip has a presumably Christian minister, given the dog collar, saying that homosexuality doesn't exist because Trans, and doing so in approving tones. The new homophobia is the old homophobia with a trans flag dog collar.

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AfternoonToffee · 30/08/2021 13:06

@andrelax

I'm struggling to respond as I presume there is a real person behind this, but the LGB are not there for the sole purpose of supporting the T. It is not for them to validate your child and they have a right to look to a group to support just their needs. The T has plenty of sole focused groups, the LGB just want one too.

AfternoonToffee Why do so many of these comments assume my daughter and I aren't real? So what you're saying is, just go over there and be Trans in the corner by yourselves. We don't want anything to do with you lot. How inclusive.

We are people behind a screen, anyone can be anyone they say there are. I have no more proof that you are genuine then I do for any other poster.

However I come from the angle that you are posting in good faith and I will therefore respond as such rather than just being completely dismissive.

And no I didn't tell anyone to stand in a corner, people can stand together, doesn't mean they need to be a hive mind.

andrelax · 30/08/2021 13:05

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Quaggersx · 30/08/2021 13:04

You've got lots of organizations you can go to for support.

Yes. I doubt their child will be sitting alone in a corner. There's a huge amount of trans support.

RedDogsBeg · 30/08/2021 13:04

So what you're saying is, just go over there and be Trans in the corner by yourselves. We don't want anything to do with you lot. How inclusive.

That's one hell of a reach you've made there.

How inclusive is it for gay men and lesbians to have their same sex attraction denied and to be attacked for being same sex attracted? Are you condoning this?

FloralBunting · 30/08/2021 13:02

Newsflash: Homosexuality is not inclusive.

No sexuality is inclusive. By its very nature, sexuality excludes. Lesbians and gay men are under no obligation whatsoever to include transactivists and their demands in our organizations or lives.

Quaggersx · 30/08/2021 13:02

So what you're saying is, just go over there and be Trans in the corner by yourselves. We don't want anything to do with you lot. How inclusive.

What we're saying is don't bully, harass and torment gay people for being same sex attracted. It's really quite simple. Clearly pride isn't very inclusive towards gay people is it. Apart from as support aids.

Helleofabore · 30/08/2021 13:01

Maybe andrelax, amongst your deflections, you could answer some questions about your assertions. Otherwise, you have joined the ranks of those posters who come and make empty assertions to shame others who don’t agree with you.

FloralBunting · 30/08/2021 12:59

You've got lots of organizations you can go to for support.

This is about the one organization that is nothing to do with your child's trans identity, and the lesbians and gay men being abused for focusing on the specific issues they have which are nothing to do with trans anything.

andrelax · 30/08/2021 12:57

I'm struggling to respond as I presume there is a real person behind this, but the LGB are not there for the sole purpose of supporting the T. It is not for them to validate your child and they have a right to look to a group to support just their needs. The T has plenty of sole focused groups, the LGB just want one too.

AfternoonToffee Why do so many of these comments assume my daughter and I aren't real? So what you're saying is, just go over there and be Trans in the corner by yourselves. We don't want anything to do with you lot. How inclusive.

FloralBunting · 30/08/2021 12:55

And while I'm venting, I'll reiterate, homosexual people are not props to give credibility to an acronym. We have no responsibility to support everyone who decides they have a special identity letter covered by the TQ+

Quaggersx · 30/08/2021 12:54

The LGBT community is essential for people like her to feel part of a supportive network

My daughter is a lesbian. What do you think her role in the LGBT should be? Does she have a right to be same sex (not gender) attracted? Or will she be a support aid for other people's identities? If she wears an LGBA t shirt, an organisation that supports same sex attraction (which pride /stonewall do not) will she be safe at pride? Or will she be tormented, threatened and chased out by 'her rainbow family'?

RedDogsBeg · 30/08/2021 12:54

@aliasundercover

Little OJ supporting gay bashing over on his twitter thread
2016: LOJ, quite rightly as all decent people would, condemns utterly the attack on a Gay Club in America.

2021: LOJ supports an attack on a gay man at Pride in Manchester because of the clothes he was wearing.

How times change.

FloralBunting · 30/08/2021 12:53

And for the record, I had a child identify as trans myself for a number of years. It was hard work.

I would have been an entitled wanker if I'd have rocked up to a group of lesbians and gay men and demanded they support my daughter's disturbed thoughts that she needed medication and a binder to squash her developing breasts, and that if they didn't campaign to force that to be a legal entitlement and shut up about being homosexual they should be shunned and abused.

FloralBunting · 30/08/2021 12:48

Assuming that lesbian and gay men should parent your child for you is pretty entitled, dear. You'll get no cossetting from me when you come on a thread about open homophobia and whine about how you want your confused child to be supported by the lesbians and gay men who are currently being verbally and physically abused for not focusing all their attention on trans demands.

I am in no mood to play nice with sad face parents who support homophobic bullying today.

merrymouse · 30/08/2021 12:47

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AfternoonToffee · 30/08/2021 12:46

The LGBT community is essential for people like her to feel part of a supportive network

I'm struggling to respond as I presume there is a real person behind this, but the LGB are not there for the sole purpose of supporting the T. It is not for them to validate your child and they have a right to look to a group to support just their needs. The T has plenty of sole focused groups, the LGB just want one too.

aliasundercover · 30/08/2021 12:46

Little OJ supporting gay bashing over on his twitter thread

RedDogsBeg · 30/08/2021 12:38

Well, there were those posts saying he deserved it for wearing a t-shirt.

I'd bet my house that those are not the ones andrelax finds hateful Bordois.

Quaggersx · 30/08/2021 12:38

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