Simon Callow article in The Times

There has to be a name for the universal law that when a woke bloke comes out strongly in support of trans ideology there will always be an incriminating tweet on his timeline where he calls trans people slurs or makes transphobic jokes.

I always quite liked Joe Lycett and Russell Tovey. Ugh

They just lie about what we’re saying and hear what they want to

As in, he knows it's a joke act really - just drag.

twitter.com/joelycett/status/447375476814655489?s=09
he has not always been supportive of the trans community, he's just pretending now.

Wow.

And he thinks he's in a position to lecture on women's safety

I've done this before, so let's see if it works.
twitter.com/catsiesXX/status/1430711973704998919?s=19

I guess that shows what he thinks of women.

Someone has also unearthed some rather horrible old tweets from JL. Rape is hilarious apparently!

Sara Pascoe commented on Joe Lycett's post with a heart, so I guess she agrees with him

I always thought Joe Lycett was an insufferable arsehole, and I guess it's true. They just don't factor in women at all do they? Once again, women don't count.

But that's not what he said, though!

The only way they can argue against our points is by completely making up what our points actually are.

Us: You know, it's a really, really bad idea for rapists to be housed in women's prison just because they say they're women. The female prisoners don't deserve that as a punishment, it's dangerous and incredibly cruel.

Them: Oh. My. God, so what you're saying is every trans person is a massive danger and a rapist and you wish we didn't exist and you want to take away all our rights, you fucking Nazis!

Pathetic children. Waste of time trying to have a grown up conversation with them.

I don't see why that should change if one of them then said 'identify as'. An idea in someone's head changes nothing in the situation.

Quite. A female's experience does not change in the slightest depending on what is in the head of the male person at the time. It's really beyond arrogant to expect female people to predicate their experience on what a male person instructs.

The whole lot of 'you won't be assaulted, it never happens' (except for x and x and x and x) 'well you can't base your safety on a few outlying bad experiences!' and the 'wanting privacy and dignity is stupid and you should get over it' and 'you should overcome your trauma and fear and problems with male people feeling threatening to you when you're vulnerable and undressed' - is equally sauce for the gander as the goose. This has to equally be advice acceptable to give to TW as to why they should simply use male spaces, if it is considered acceptable to give to female people.

Otherwise, of course, it would just be rank sexism.

God, these people

I sometimes try to reverse my logic to see if I am wrong and missing something

...perhaps we all need to just be kind, the willy havers don't want to upset us by waggling their tackle about in our spaces. They cannot help it as they do not want other men to see their willys in male spaces. Their willys are special and more private you see, but women should be happy to view them. Having them in our space makes us vulnerable to assault but they assure it it won't happen. We ought to agree as they are theoretically women, with women's willys.

We have to appease their needs and put their feelings first as they are vulnerable victims. Theoretical women's needs therefore trump biological women's needs.

Nope, the logic is flawed as a willy haver is male.
I still think sex matters.

Read this and just thought "bravo". The LGBQT community need to speak out more as it carries such weight.

God, these blue tickers putting out statements "to my followers", like they're Jesus or something.

Any male in a woman's space is violating my boundaries and taking away my privacy and dignity, in and of itself. They don't need to be obviously dangerous or particularly objectionable personally. They should not be there by virtue of their sex. None of them.

Exactly.

I don't want to get changed in front of my father-in-law, or my son's friends. It's not just about male intent. It's about privacy.

Exactly, and this is where focussing on safety misses the point. When we do this we can be handwaved away with "incidents are very rare" and "it's not fair to all trans women". No. Any male in a woman's space is violating my boundaries and taking away my privacy and dignity, in and of itself. They don't need to be obviously dangerous or particularly objectionable personally. They should not be there by virtue of their sex. None of them.

Why don't women's feelings matter, when people bend over backwards to please and coddle the feelings of males?

It's not just about criminal men. I don't want my daughter pressured by school or peers to undress next to a male child. She doesn't want to in front of her own brother or dad and they are well known and definitely not of any ill intent. I don't see why that should change if one of them then said 'identify as'. An idea in someone's head changes nothing in the situation.

But it isn't about criminal men, it is about men generally. Why should I have to give up my privacy nd dignity because a man decides, for any reason Including because they want to call themselves a woman, they want to get their dick out in a women's changing room?

This is the whole thing - women shouldn't have to waste time defending or justifying their rights in law.

A simple "no" to any men, no matter what they think makes their case the exception should be enough.

I really do think every interview or any communication by GC people should start with a clarification that we are worried about criminal men NOT trans people in general.

But it isn't about criminal men, it is about men generally. Why should I have to give up my privacy nd dignity because a man decides, for any reason Including because they want to call themselves a woman, they want to get their dick out in a women's changing room?