Simon Callow article in The Times

[quote HermioneKipper]@EmbarrassingAdmissions but perfectly formed 😀[/quote]
It's like when I passed by Martin Sheen in a corridor, I'd no idea he was so small (like Callow, enough personal charisma to fill an entire city).

Both men of enormous integrity and courage.

@EmbarrassingAdmissions but perfectly formed 😀

Not sure if it's been mentioned up thread but Simon Callow mentored Gwendoline Christie, employing her as an assistant when she was trying to break into acting.

It was always going to take the men standing up about this.

I saw a tweet of mine (and Facebook post) from 2018 and it asked when was there going to be some "he for she". Save for Glinner, there was not one man opening his mouth for women's rights.

It was always gonna be the case that things would be highlighted and the argument taken to the masses only when the men folk started to have their say and pontificate.

I am GLAD for that. But also infuriated.

Laurie Burton and Shahrar Ali have shown support.

Plus, another positive, The Times has run a book review highly in favour of Helen Joyce over Shon Faye.

I adore Simon Callow. I once saw him doing voice exercises in a London park and smiled at him. He gave me a thumbs up back.

He’s my favourite part of many of the films he’s in. He’s wonderful in Shakespeare in Love

.... I am willing to bet that for each Joe Lycett and Sarah Pascoe there are a dozen similar names reaching out to Simon Callow right now saying thank you for speaking up, I can't right now.

And actually I have nothing against Joe and Sarah demonstrating love and solidarity to marginalised people. The trans community are equally endangered by this ideology as women are, frankly. But anyone saying anything at all from either direction should first and foremost be advocating for debate, free speech and solutions going forward.

I know that if that happened I could hold my own against Lycett, pascoe, the guilty feminists and Daniel Radcliffe....

Oh let's not analyse his perspective on rape vis a vis men or women. The bulk of the other jokes listed are quite bloody clear on his perspective on women, and it's not beyond his wit to know that far more women are subject to sexual assault than men. He's a shit, and I'm quite happy to leave it there.

Men rape other men as well.

How do we know he was talking about a male (animal?) trying to rape a female one?

Yeah it's not a joke it's a provocative /edgy thing isn't it.

Two different species?

A sexual attack in the way humans understand it?

How peculiar.

I think the idea is to illicit awkward laughter, a la Jimmy Carr as in "You can't say that!" while feeding off the darker elements in some of your audience.

Rape isn't funny. Anyone who tries to draw near the knuckle humour from a rape scenario is usually inverting the power balance to press the absurd, which I think is what Lycett was going for, but it doesn't work. He's just showing how he doesn't like women.

Ah bollocks I always liked Joe Lycett

Please will someone explain the rape joke!

I just don't get it and that's annoying me now!

twitter.com/LucyHunterB/status/1431336263253172229

Why would any business or individual let themselves in for this world of pain when there's no sign of relief on the horizon?

Can't afford to NOT work, rather.

My guess is that famous people/actors/musicians who agree with Callow but have not already said anything publicly about this are ones who have decided not to. Either they have a specific reason to avoid it, which might just be that they can't afford to work, family reasons, etc, or they prefer not to talk about politics generally in the public sphere.

No idea.

People don't like putting their head over the parapet on this.

I don't (can't, won't ) do Twitter. Are there any famous people coming out as 100% in support of Simon Callow, or are they all keeping their heads down?...

Is that because it suits TW to ignore men, and male health, as they don't want to control this group of people?

So TWAM for health reasons, but TWAW when they say so?

Talking of Sarah pascoe being very very pro twaw, along with cariad Lloyd, they both starred in pascoe's BBC sitcom which had a long to camera piece about how adipose fat is stored differently in male and female bodies..... Then Sara sat back on the episode of the last leg where Adam Hills had a prostate check on live telly (good!). He was saying 'men, get your prostate check! Men, there's nothing to be scared of!'

She didn't say a word about trans women. or how not all men have prostates.

I did a thread about it at the time:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4086365-The-Last-leg-stand-up-for-cancer-special

Not sure on the W for the post above, but I have realised that trans willys are willys is also TWAW.
Willys are willys so factually correct too.

If anyone can think of a word beginning with W to replace 'Always', we can call it TWATs Law

(I'd partial to KWB law - knouty wee besom law)