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John Cleese to present C4 show 'Cancel Me'

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OldTurtleNewShell · 24/08/2021 11:01

Apparently, he's going to interview 'cancelled' subjects. He's been quite vocal on twitter about a lot of this and has spoken up in defence of JK Rowling, as well as opposing male people in women's sports.

It'll be interesting to see who he gets on. I think it's also a sign of a turning tide that he's getting to put this on a major channel at all.

He's quoted by the Guardian as saying 'there’s so much I don’t understand', but from his tweets, he understands it very well. His tactic is to question instead of refute, which means people have to actually think about what they're claiming.

This promises to be interesting.

www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/aug/24/cancel-me-john-cleese-to-present-channel-4-show-on-woke-thought

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 24/08/2021 19:43

So he's actually being paid to offer an argument clinic?

Excellent.

I'd love to see how he deals with the interpretation of the number of sketches done wearing female clothing - or the Judges sketch. After all, the original interviews around the Life of Brian showed him to be a natural (or well trained in debating by his school).

Or, of course, he could always tell them that they were being very naughty boys.

AlfonsoTheMango · 24/08/2021 19:36

@MishyJDI

Lols - going on national tv to complain about being cancelled. Doesn't really sound like he is being silenced - quite the reverse.

Cancel culture is just a load of rubbish.

Mishy's posts always - always - miss the point. It's as predictable as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west.
shesellsseacats · 24/08/2021 19:29

This was about 20 years ago, but I can't imagine he's become any less iconic since then.

shesellsseacats · 24/08/2021 19:28

@LazyViper

My understanding of John Cleese’s finances is that he is generally pretty strapped for cash due to all his divorces. So he’s not in a JKR style place of uncancellable safety at all. My guess is that he just doesn’t give a toss what anyone says about him and sod them all. Grin Looking forward to it.
I don't believe it!

I used to book after dinner speakers for work.

John Cleese was in the catalogue under the "iconic" category alongside Neil Armstrong. £100k for an after dinner speech. (Way beyond us! Our speakers were up and coming comedians for under £5k)

The speaker agency takes a hefty whack, but still...

FindTheTruth · 24/08/2021 16:06

variety.com/2021/tv/news/john-cleese-cancel-culture-1235047583/

www.imdb.com/news/ni63400095/

When he talks to the activists, I do hope he asks the Staniland question

LazyViper · 24/08/2021 15:31

My understanding of John Cleese’s finances is that he is generally pretty strapped for cash due to all his divorces. So he’s not in a JKR style place of uncancellable safety at all. My guess is that he just doesn’t give a toss what anyone says about him and sod them all. Grin Looking forward to it.

thirdfiddle · 24/08/2021 15:30

Sorrel, thanks for that, very interesting and insightful.
Cleese talking about the butt of the joke being closed societies where people stop looking at the evidence and belief systems become unfalsifiable.
Draw your own parallels.

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OldTurtleNewShell · 24/08/2021 15:26

Actually, it seems to me that people lying about what you actually say does form part of "being cancelled".

It does, doesn't it? This is a huge part of it. I hope Cleese touches on it as part of the series.

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MonsignorMirth · 24/08/2021 14:21

Cleese, in the op article:
“I’m delighted to have a chance to find out, on camera, about all the aspects of so-called political correctness. There’s so much I really don’t understand, like: how the impeccable idea of ‘Let’s all be kind to people’ has been developed in some cases ad absurdum.”

MishyJDI Cleese is "complaining about being cancelled".

I mean, why lie? We can all see that this is untrue.
Actually, it seems to me that people lying about what you actually say does form part of "being cancelled".

SorrelForbes · 24/08/2021 14:14

I've just enjoyed re-watching him in the 1979 TV debate about LoB.

Jaysmith71 · 24/08/2021 14:13

I look forward to anyone debating with John Cleese:

Sexnotgender · 24/08/2021 14:10

Look forward to this!

Articus · 24/08/2021 14:08

I’m sure he’ll help us all see the Fanny side!

WorriedWishingWell · 24/08/2021 14:06

I am not using my privilege to tell those without it that they are wrong
Oh yes you are!!!

WorriedWishingWell · 24/08/2021 14:04

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RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 24/08/2021 14:04

I am not using my privilege to tell those without it that they are wrong

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Fucking LOL

Thanks for the belly laugh, Jo

He cant not know what hes said there…can he???

Bryonyshcmyony · 24/08/2021 14:02

My dd18 will dismiss anything he says because he is 80. Ageism totally acceptable it seems.

Bordois · 24/08/2021 13:59

Roflcoptor!

Bordois · 24/08/2021 13:58

@MishyJDI

Lols - going on national tv to complain about being cancelled. Doesn't really sound like he is being silenced - quite the reverse.

Cancel culture is just a load of rubbish.

Fancy getting it so wrong

Megalolz

LangClegFlavoredBananaMush · 24/08/2021 13:54

I just want to enjoy a moment imagining that somehow Maugham is persuaded to come on the show with Cleese, who comes on wearing a kimono and carrying a baseball bat, and imitating his pompous style...

Beowulfa · 24/08/2021 13:50

@MishyJDI

Lols - going on national tv to complain about being cancelled. Doesn't really sound like he is being silenced - quite the reverse.

Cancel culture is just a load of rubbish.

John Cleese is in his 80s. I assume he's paid his mortgage off and doesn't need to worry too much about income.

It's therefore a lot easier for him to say what he thinks, unlike people who work in publishing or at arts universities.

He's also male, which means he is far less likely to receive death/rape threats. Hopefully this is going to be looked at on the show.

Abhannmor · 24/08/2021 13:46

Lol. Always wanted to write that. Pmsl. Grin A woman once told me the best thing about having kids is you have permission to be really silly. It's always great craic when Mishy comes around isn't it. Rofl.

mrsborisjohnson · 24/08/2021 13:38

I love him so much! Looking forward to this.

FrancescaContini · 24/08/2021 13:32

Very much looking forward to this.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 24/08/2021 13:30

@MishyJDI

Lols - going on national tv to complain about being cancelled. Doesn't really sound like he is being silenced - quite the reverse.

Cancel culture is just a load of rubbish.

He doesn’t say he is being silenced.