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Telegraph: Top ballet schools ditching leotards to help transgender dancers

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LazyViper · 21/08/2021 20:28

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/21/uks-top-ballet-schools-ditching-leotards-tights-aid-transgender/

Some of Britain's top ballet schools are preparing to do away with leotards and tights to be more inclusive of transgender performers, The Telegraph can reveal.

A group of sister schools teaching ballet and contemporary dance have pledged to support the transition of transgender students who may be self-conscious about their bodies.

Loose-fitting clothing should be promoted in classes over traditional skin-tight leotards and tights commonplace in dance, according to inclusivity protocols touching on student anatomy.

The guidelines have been adopted to address dance subjects by London Contemporary Dance School, Northern School of Contemporary Dance, the Rambert School, and the Central School of Ballet.

Their protocols state: “Form fitting clothing may force trans people to use unhealthy methods to conceal their bodies such as binding or tucking.

“It is important for trans people to not feel self-conscious during training.”

Paywall, but you get the gist.

Would be interested to learn how many trans students these ballet schools expect to admit.

Isn’t it also quite important for students’ bodies to be visible so they can correct their form during classes? Hence the reason for tight clothing in the first place?

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CloseYourEyesAndSee · 21/08/2021 21:49

How many male ballet dancers will be joining top ballet schools as women? And vice versa? It's not likely to happen is it??

IvyTwines2 · 21/08/2021 21:44

What are the numbers of children now identifying as 'trans' or 'non-binary'? It must be a lot, because everyone I know with teenagers or teenaged relatives knows or knows of at least one, and in some cases several. Almost all the ones I know of through friends and family are female.

LazyViper · 21/08/2021 21:33

And seriously, how many students are we talking about here? Is it possible any of these schools will have no trans students this year? Or are they expecting an influx?

Seems a big culture change for a possibly tiny or non-existent cohort.

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Comefromaway · 21/08/2021 21:15

@christinarossetti19

Dress requirements for female ballet dancers have always been more demanding.

Must wear tights. Hair in a bun. No knickers under leotard for exams. Different colour leotards for different exams...

I thought students in class wore less formal attire, but maybe not.

The reason always given is that the teacher/examiner/auditioner/audience need to see the line of the body and how the girl holds herself.

So it's interesting to see that that doesn't now seem to be the sacrosanct principle that it has been for decades.

To be fair some of those rules are not rules.

My dd always wore knickers and wore the same colour leotard for all her exams from the age of 11 to age 18. Only her school leotard changed from one colour/style in years 7-10, to another colour/style in year 10 onwards.

Comefromaway · 21/08/2021 21:11

@FeatheredHope

And the irony of using things like preventing the risk of binding as a reason. Believe me, women in prestigious ballet schools have been binding for decades in order to conform to the body shapes that ballet schools demanded.
This.

And boys/men have to wear a dance belt for safety reasons so their buts don’t move during jumps and get injured.

The boys uniform at my daughter’s school was just as form fitting, if not more so than the girls. And the uniform leotards only suited one body type, totally flat, not larger chested like my dd is. (Though they did recently change that).

christinarossetti19 · 21/08/2021 21:10

Dress requirements for female ballet dancers have always been more demanding.

Must wear tights. Hair in a bun. No knickers under leotard for exams. Different colour leotards for different exams...

I thought students in class wore less formal attire, but maybe not.

The reason always given is that the teacher/examiner/auditioner/audience need to see the line of the body and how the girl holds herself.

So it's interesting to see that that doesn't now seem to be the sacrosanct principle that it has been for decades.

IvyTwines2 · 21/08/2021 21:07

I'm glad they say clearly that binding and tucking are unhealthy and something to be avoided.

FeatheredHope · 21/08/2021 21:02

And the irony of using things like preventing the risk of binding as a reason. Believe me, women in prestigious ballet schools have been binding for decades in order to conform to the body shapes that ballet schools demanded.

ArabellaScott · 21/08/2021 20:57

Male people's feelings matter more than girls'.

I mean, great that they're changing it. But how come women don't ever get listened to?

Starlitexpress · 21/08/2021 20:45

But I thought both sexes wore leotards, tights and close fitting clothes in general, and both tend to have body issues. And males dancers have taken on traditional females roles, such as Matthew Bournes Swan Lake. What am I not getting?

OhHolyJesus · 21/08/2021 20:42

This is similar to British gymnastics IIRC.

Girls complain, nothing changes.

Transgender gymnast makes a complaint, proposal and change immediately enacted.

LizzieSiddal · 21/08/2021 20:36

It’s been fine to force girls and women into leotards and tights all this time (along with the body and eating issues that it exacerbates)

Exactly, makes me so cross!

FeatheredHope · 21/08/2021 20:36

Sorry posted too soon….but heaven forbid a trans person feels self conscious.

FeatheredHope · 21/08/2021 20:35

Fuxk me. I mean great, but… I can’t help be annoyed It’s been fine to force girls and women into leotards and tights all this time (along with the body and eating issues that it exacerbates)

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