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Eddie Izzard Graun correction

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BraveBananaBadge · 21/08/2021 19:30

I've searched but couldn't find anything on this, sorry if it's been covered - just been reading through the This Much I Know feature and saw Eddie was the subject at the start of this month.

The self-flagellation of the correction at the bottom is hilarious and says it all...

Eddie Izzard Graun correction
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HollowTalk · 23/08/2021 23:25

@Awkwardy

I remember when Eddie was funny, I bought the Guardian and I could genuinely vote for Labour, the Lib Dems or the Green Party without feeling ashamed.
And we were in Europe, too.

Everything's so fucked up now.

Cassandraprobs · 23/08/2021 23:19

@Zandathepanda

When I read this I heard it in John Cleese’s voice in a Monty Python sketch.
Struck me straight away that it's definitely Python-esque with the constant about turns, next that'll actually use the Holy Grail credits!
 "The directors of the firm hired to     
 continue the credits after the other   
 people had been sacked, wish it to     
 be known that they have just been      
 sacked."
eurochick · 23/08/2021 23:11

I think what that should say "If Eddie doesn't know himself we certainly don't have a scoobie".

BraveBananaBadge · 23/08/2021 23:07

If Eddie's happy with either, as the clarification states, I would have thought it more likely they got ambushed by the social media pronoun police Michelle.

Being happy with either is one of those mind-boggling nonsenses I really can't get my head around, but there you go. Even the factions who subscribe to it can't, of which this is a clear indication. The Guardian has indulged all this to the letter and yet is still hoist by its own petard.

Which is the expression I was looking for in the first place.

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ErrolTheDragon · 23/08/2021 20:22

@TedImgoingmad

And also, why is EI being allowed to appropriate male roles when they identify as female? Surely, the only roles EI may now play without appropriating other peoples' experiences are TW roles?
Izzard identifies as 'genderfluid'. "somewhat boy-ish and somewhat girl-ish". So no problem with male roles, though perhaps the question should be why they're adult ones. Grin
MichelleScarn · 23/08/2021 20:16

I'm just fascinated by the way they tie themselves in knots. (The Guardian, not Eddie - who I can't imagine had anything to do with the correction.)
You don't think EI had anything to do with it? Who reported and complained about it then?

TedImgoingmad · 23/08/2021 20:08

And also, why is EI being allowed to appropriate male roles when they identify as female? Surely, the only roles EI may now play without appropriating other peoples' experiences are TW roles?

TedImgoingmad · 23/08/2021 20:07

In EI's last film, EI played the male lead. In what category would they be nominated for an Oscar (or other award divided along male and female lines)?

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 23/08/2021 19:55

Oh, it makes me sad.

Eddie used to be such a breath of fresh air. Now they are exactly the same as every other middle aged man who really fancies themself.

Yawn.

GreenWhiteViolet · 23/08/2021 14:57

@nepeta

This piece gave me the first hollow laughter of the day.

As an aside, it doesn't bother me at all if someone misgenders me. This could be because I know for sure which sex I am. That misgendering is such a crime in some contexts but just a faux pas in other contexts should provoke some thinking about why the difference exists.

'Misgendering' me would be calling me 'cis' or, indeed, assuming that I have a 'gender identity' at all, because I don't. Funny how the people who most object to misgendering are the ones who regularly misgender me and get aggressive when I point it out.

I couldn't care less if someone happens to mistake me for a person of the opposite sex. Missexing? Not a problem. I know what sex I am, it isn't dependent on the validation of others.

Jux · 23/08/2021 14:36

@FrankButchersDickieBow

I remember when Eddie was funny AND I bought the Guardian.

Times have changed so much 😪

And not for the better Sad
Zandathepanda · 22/08/2021 19:04

When I read this I heard it in John Cleese’s voice in a Monty Python sketch.

Mulletsaremisunderstood · 22/08/2021 11:20

Actually, I may have used the word pandering, which may not be allowed... anyway, great to see Eddie getting more attention, which is always what Eddie wants. So heartwarming.

Mulletsaremisunderstood · 22/08/2021 11:18

@ErrolTheDragon

I can't remember what you said, Mullets. Presumably not just a 'misgendering' as I used he/his immediately after your post, as that's what makes sense to me and we now know he doesn't really care either way I see no reason not to. Confused

But who knows, mods sometimes presumably sometimes delete without having read the context of a post. The only time I think I've been deleted for 'misgendering' was when I referred to someone as 'he'... but the subject of my post was the newly elected Donald Trump, not the person the thread was mainly about.
Report your deleted post if you want to query it.

I think it was just about how Eddie may well be having the last laugh, getting everyone to call Eddie whatever Eddie wants, and whenever Eddie changes Eddie's mind everyone else must go along with whatever Eddie says.

Anyway, it wasn't that interesting, just funny to see who is making the rules and how are we supposed to keep up when even the Guardian can't?

IheartJKR · 22/08/2021 11:01
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IheartJKR · 22/08/2021 11:01

I used to love Eddie.

‘They're not women’s clothes their mine’?Confused

Grin

WTF happened.

Jaysmith71 · 22/08/2021 11:01

The Centre are opportunist cowards who'd sell out their principles for a handful of magic beans if it came with a chance of being junior minister in charge of paperclips at weekends.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 22/08/2021 10:58

I remember when Eddie was funny, I bought the Guardian and I could genuinely vote for Labour, the Lib Dems or the Green Party without feeling ashamed.

And even scarier, the Tories were solidly bad. I never thought the day would come when their parliamentary candidate is the only one that accepts that women are adult human females.

AnyFucker · 22/08/2021 10:50

Babble babble doo-doo

SerendipityJane · 22/08/2021 10:49

Most appropriate pronoun for Izzard is "twat" - or it's gender-free version "idiot".

Elle est un massif cul, n'est ce pas ?

ErrolTheDragon · 22/08/2021 10:48

Politics in a nutshell:

The Left are Stupid. The Right are Evil.

And the centre are confused? (Not that the libdems are the centre nowadays)

ErrolTheDragon · 22/08/2021 10:47

I can't remember what you said, Mullets. Presumably not just a 'misgendering' as I used he/his immediately after your post, as that's what makes sense to me and we now know he doesn't really care either way I see no reason not to. Confused

But who knows, mods sometimes presumably sometimes delete without having read the context of a post. The only time I think I've been deleted for 'misgendering' was when I referred to someone as 'he'... but the subject of my post was the newly elected Donald Trump, not the person the thread was mainly about.
Report your deleted post if you want to query it.

Jaysmith71 · 22/08/2021 10:45

@AtlasNeverShrugged

The left always eats itself.
Politics in a nutshell:

The Left are Stupid. The Right are Evil.

Mulletsaremisunderstood · 22/08/2021 10:29

Hang on, I was deleted for what? Using the pronouns that Eddie now claims they are happy for people to use?

I can't keep up.

Awkwardy · 22/08/2021 10:27

I remember when Eddie was funny, I bought the Guardian and I could genuinely vote for Labour, the Lib Dems or the Green Party without feeling ashamed.