Page 5 | Sadiq Khan has sacked Joan Smith from the London VAWG board

countrypunk · 2021-08-19T09:07:33+00:00

Activist 'sacked after raising concerns about transwomen in refuges' https://mol.im/a/9906833 Also in the Times. I'm disgusted. It's such cynical game-playing from Khan, all to appease a tiny minority of TRAs. There's no way he actually believes this stuff. I'm going to write to him. Joan Smith is a feminist rock star.

Jorrris · 19/08/2021 10:49

@Beowulfa

Heartily glad I voted for Count Binface and not this posturing lightweight.

Although voting for candidates like bin face instead of credible opposition does allow these men such as Khan a better chance of getting in. Although binface may have done a better job of it had he ever stood a chance.

SirVixofVixHall · 19/08/2021 10:48

@Purpletomato

Appalling. It's like Labour actually wants to lose women's votes.

Any women still voting Labour ? I have a few friends who are massively pro Labour and seem to just ignore the whole DESTRUCTION OF WOMENS RIGHTS thing, and I am baffled by them.

Jorrris · 19/08/2021 10:46

*got

Jorrris · 19/08/2021 10:46

@Enough4me

It's in The Times and a few posts into the comments and there's a man saying TW in female spaces isn't an issue and anyway there are easier ways to access women, no man would pretend to be a woman to do this. I kid you not.

He hasn't gone any ulterior motives has he, oh no, nothing to see here...

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 19/08/2021 10:45

Mind, I saw something yesterday on Twitter in which various individuals were challenging Edinburgh Uni. about having senior academics involved with/supporting For Women: Scotland.

Until there's a critical mass of coverage by MSM, these measures will continue because they're successful.

Enough4me · 19/08/2021 10:44

It's in The Times and a few posts into the comments and there's a man saying TW in female spaces isn't an issue and anyway there are easier ways to access women, no man would pretend to be a woman to do this. I kid you not.

Beowulfa · 19/08/2021 10:44

Heartily glad I voted for Count Binface and not this posturing lightweight.

Jorrris · 19/08/2021 10:43

@countrypunk

The Guardian have absolutely nothing to say about it so far, even though they printed a piece by Joan a few days ago about the links between terrorism and violence against women. What a fucking surprise.

The guardian is a comic for angry teen activists, plus those lacking in decency and common sense, these days.

Chersfrozenface · 19/08/2021 10:42

I wonder whether Sadiq Khan, supposedly a practising Muslim, has asked the Muslim women's refuges in London for their opinion on the subject.

Jorrris · 19/08/2021 10:41

Also the author of something that might also be deeply relevant: Grown: How Domestic Violence Turns Men Into Terrorists

Indeed.

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countrypunk · 19/08/2021 10:40

The Guardian have absolutely nothing to say about it so far, even though they printed a piece by Joan a few days ago about the links between terrorism and violence against women. What a fucking surprise.

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 19/08/2021 10:36

@Floisme

The Violence against Women and Girls Board have sacked the woman who wrote 'Misogynies'?

Righto.

Also the author of something that might also be deeply relevant: Grown: How Domestic Violence Turns Men Into Terrorists

Jaysmith71 · 19/08/2021 10:36

Sadiq isn't a true believer. He's feeding the crocodile in the hope that it will eat him last.

Enough4me · 19/08/2021 10:35

Women know your place. When male women tell you they need your space, men will agree...it's the boys club.

FrancescaContini · 19/08/2021 10:32

I absolutely ❤️ Joan Smith.
Perhaps one positive - clutching at straws - here is that SURELY this will now be discussed more widely in the media?? WRT the Scotland Rape Crisis CEO comments - I don’t believe they were widely reported (I only heard about this on MN), but I very very much hope that this story is picked up by the media. Absolutely nobody I know believes that biological males should be permitted into women’s refuges - nobody.

EdgeOfACoin · 19/08/2021 10:32

He jumps on every bandwagon going. He spouts TWAW without any understanding of what that means.

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 19/08/2021 10:30

So let's get this straight.

A male has sacked a female from a board dealing with violence against women and girls, because that female expressed concerns about males being allowed into female only refuges?

How fucking progressive! Well done Sadiq!

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countrypunk · 19/08/2021 10:29

Absolutely agree @Jorrris.

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Jorrris · 19/08/2021 10:28

Honestly we need a few high profile cases before people start to understand that this is discriminatory and unacceptable.

Absolutely we need this. He's breaking the law. She is allowed to raise very valid concerns about safeguarding and she is allowed to hold GC views. He does not get to remove her from post because he doesn't like that. I'm happy to do some gardening for her legal costs, as I'm sure many of us are. She only needs to ask.

Floisme · 19/08/2021 10:26

The Violence against Women and Girls Board have sacked the woman who wrote 'Misogynies'?

Righto.

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countrypunk · 19/08/2021 10:25

@NecessaryScene

Just to clarify - the article doesn't make any stronger connection than "after".

I don't know any background here - what's the confidence level that there is actually cause-and-effect?

Joan Smith herself seems pretty sure of the connection. I hope she's taking legal advice.

mobile.twitter.com/polblonde/status/1428250942152060932?s=24

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Signalbox · 19/08/2021 10:21

@Jorrris

I hope she takes legal action against him.

Honestly we need a few high profile cases before people start to understand that this is discriminatory and unacceptable.

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 19/08/2021 10:21

Surely if this is all accurate and she has indeed been 'sacked', then she would have grounds for unfair dismissal? I don't the details of this particular role and how it works?

OldTurtleNewShell · 19/08/2021 10:19

Wow. That's bad. I am so glad I left Labour and am no longer paying dues for this shit.
And I second the pp comment. I hope she takes legal action. I'll be quite happy to get digging.

NecessaryScene · 19/08/2021 10:18

Just to clarify - the article doesn't make any stronger connection than "after".

I don't know any background here - what's the confidence level that there is actually cause-and-effect?