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Y: The Last Man TV adaptation to affirm TWAW

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Flamglimglubberty · 15/08/2021 20:58

screenrant.com/y-last-man-gender-identity-spectrum-details/

I was quite looking forward to this show, but looks like they'll be tying themselves up in knots to affirm TWAW... and doesn't that kind of make the whole premise of the show redundant?

Basic premise for those not familiar - overnight every mammal with a Y chromosome mysteriously dies.

Two comments stick out from this article that contradict eachother:

  1. [There are some] men with two X chromosomes
  2. the cast and the crew — are making a show that affirms that trans women are women, trans men are men, nonbinary people are nonbinary

But surely if TWAW then there wouldn't be any immediate crisis following the death of all those with a Y chromosome. If TW were women then humanity could continue procreating and it would be business as usual?

I was genuinely looking forward to this show, but now it just seems like it's going to be an absolute mind melt in the pursuit of woke point scoring. Is anyone else struggling to get their head around this?

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EyesOpening · 24/10/2021 19:21

@SpindleWhorl

"It’s also made clear that a number of women died that day who had a Y chromosome and probably didn’t even know it.”

But when they die, how is anyone going to know who had what chromosomes? Over 150,000 or so people drop dead world wide every day (and that's pre-covid). So will they all be assumed to have had the 'wrong chromosomes'?

And in the midst of the chaos of half the planet dying and presumably needing rapid disposal, the dead bodies are all going to be chromosome tested, are they?

I'm really confused 😕

Y: The Last One Out Of Two People He Is Z/2 - 1 Where XX + XY = Z BIDMAST
BettyFilous · 24/10/2021 18:50

I took one for the team and watched all of the uploaded episodes. It’s definitely on point with the ideology, so if it’s been cancelled for wrong think that’d be a shame. It does a good job of covering all the gender ideology talking points, though no clownfish (yet). Also manages to crowbar left (Dem) vs right (Rep) politics in with an added dose of religious rudderless, quiverful right wing women in a hurry to get back to the status quo. Based on the episodes so far, I’m rooting for Yorick and Ampersand (cappucin), which must make me a bad feminist, or failing that a mass extinction event. I hope they make it out without having their man plums squeezed dry.

Sickoffamilydrama · 24/10/2021 18:41

It's alright BettyFilous my mate who is studying astro physics and I will run the power stations nuclear technology isn't that complex 😉...I'll just press this red button 💣💥

On a serious note I was going to get Disney plus to watch this and the final series of the walking dead. Think I won't bother, although at least the walking dead has strong female characters that as they move through the series evolve to become strong and independent.

Lovelyricepudding · 24/10/2021 18:27

And as we know, when something is possible in clown fish, molluscs, greenfly, snails etc then it must also be true in humans.

Lovelyricepudding · 24/10/2021 18:14

The general storyline was that women were getting pregnant without having sex - sort of like an immaculate conception. And they were giving birth only to daughters.

Greenfly do this (pathnogenesis) in Spring, it is how their numbers explode so quickly.

AssassinatedBeauty · 24/10/2021 16:06

"The idea is simply that biology does not dictate our social identities. "

Why on earth do you think that feminists would disagree with that, @SillyStrings423?? That's been my radical feminist and anti-gender belief since I was fully aware of feminist thinking as a teenager. Being a woman is simply my biology. Sometimes that's relevant in practical ways in the world. But it tells you nothing about me as an individual personality.

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BettyFilous · 24/10/2021 15:58

I dunno. 🤷‍♀️ Somewhere else downwind. Yeah, the plot has more holes than Jarlberg.

Babdoc · 24/10/2021 15:55

“cleared the bodies” BettyFilous? Cleared them to where? How? You’re talking 35 million corpses in the UK alone! There’s no graveyard or crem facility big enough. The whole premise is beyond daft.

BettyFilous · 24/10/2021 15:46

It doesn’t look rosy Babdoc. Food is already an issue, plus qualified staff to run eg power stations. There are corpses everywhere. In large, occupied buildings they’ve just annexed areas where they haven’t cleared the bodies. A bit like The Road, I don’t think it would hurt to die in the first wave or initial event. Dystopia sucks, even if it means a more diverse range of women’s naked, soapy breasts and bodies make it on to screen. Hmm

GoodieMoomin · 24/10/2021 15:42

@Highwind it did indeed

www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/10/18/rumours-why-was-y-the-last-man-cancelled/

Babdoc · 24/10/2021 15:34

Is it a comedy? Because it sounds incredibly silly. Three and a half billion rotting corpses would cause absolute havoc in terms of disease - how the hell would the survivors dispose of them all? Let alone run all the infrastructure with over half the workforce missing.
And even if the one surviving man was locked up in a sperm bank and forced to spend the rest of his life wanking, the human race would still die out as every other species wouldn’t have that option, so we would be stuck on a sterile planet. Or are they postulating that male bees etc would be unaffected?

NonnyMouse1337 · 24/10/2021 15:24

Does anyone here remember a spoof documentary style film made in the 70s or 80s I think - I'm sure I watched it on Netflix or Amazon Prime....

The general storyline was that women were getting pregnant without having sex - sort of like an immaculate conception. And they were giving birth only to daughters. No boys were being born. And no one knew why. Men were slowly becoming a rarity as they died out and the film was following the life of the last man who was born.

It was an interesting storyline and very funny as it made fun of women and men. I can't for the life of me remember the name of the film, but I'd highly recommend watching it.
It sounds like this new TV show / comic is sort of based on that original premise.

Kendodd · 24/10/2021 14:58

Well I'm really looking forward to a transwoman turning up on Naked Attraction.
That'll be an interesting watch.

DuckDuckNo · 24/10/2021 14:53

@Noapplejustcrumble

I actually think that this series is actually quite good at making young people realise that TW aren’t women and TM aren’t men. Shows that sex, ie chromosomes, are what makes you a woman, not clothes/make up.
This is why many want it cancelled, even though it has tRanS rePreSentation: it is still an uncomfortable reminder about those pesky chromosomes.
BettyFilous · 24/10/2021 14:32

And now for the science stuff. The mad scientist is explaining DSDs. “Infinite variations… Not everyone with a Y chromosome is a man… So many brilliant women.” Over-optimism on Noapple’s part.

Noapplejustcrumble · 24/10/2021 14:22

I actually think that this series is actually quite good at making young people realise that TW aren’t women and TM aren’t men. Shows that sex, ie chromosomes, are what makes you a woman, not clothes/make up.

BettyFilous · 24/10/2021 14:11

Finally! A miscarriage.

Lovelyricepudding · 24/10/2021 14:10

So all the men die and the show writers are still incapable of not focusing on 'men' so they focus on a trivial percentage of women desperate to do what? Continue to present as men? Why? And if medical supplies collapse then why focus on testosterone not antibiotics?

BettyFilous · 24/10/2021 14:09

I thought this already got cancelled a few days ago?

God forbid we have series (almost) entirely led by and featuring capable women putting a broken world back together.

Highwind · 24/10/2021 13:44

I thought this already got cancelled a few days ago?

MarshmallowSwede · 24/10/2021 13:43

Serious question.. do “Butch” lesbians no longer exist?

I think it’s terrible we just assume a masculine lesbian must be someone identifying as a man. They have been totally erased haven’t they?

MarshmallowSwede · 24/10/2021 13:41

If all women died .. that show would be one episode. All men would either commit suicide or kill one another. No second season possible.

A world without men means we could be outside after 6pm without being afraid. It’s a big reach to say the world would be in chaos.

Women are doctors, engineers, architects, carpenters. We would be just fine. I would miss my husband, but would not miss him farting in bed.

OldTurtleNewShell · 24/10/2021 13:38

I can't be bothered to be annoyed at this, it's so ridiculous. It's a shame because it could be such an interesting premise. There's so much they could have done with it, but nope, they've just gone for a superficial view of what it would look like and tied themselves into knots to build in a pile of pseudoscience. What a waste.

MarshmallowSwede · 24/10/2021 13:38

Does anyone know want to make a bet until how long before this is cancelled?

Will it make it one season? Be given a pity second season because?

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