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Teacher quits school publicly

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PartyofPun · 12/08/2021 11:06

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/teacher-quits-virginia-school-transgender-b1900965.html

This may have been posted elsewhere.

A teacher has publicly quit a school in Virginia in protest at the schools transgender policy. The quote focuses on her religious beliefs which is a bit of a shame because her message is clearly that this ideology is harming vulnerable children. She is clearly highly principled and concerned.

I think it’s a slightly (slightly?) more balanced piece from the independent for once.

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dyslek · 13/08/2021 22:03

I cantbelieve American parents are going to accept what is happening in their schools.
What parent would agree to place their child in an education system where the child will need a deprogramming session after the end of every school day. Its totally scary and insane.
I cant see how this is going to end, mass home schooling?

Aparallaxia · 13/08/2021 19:06

My message got deleted. I am not sure why. It concerned the way that the person quoted at the end of the story said this:

'One parent who identified themselves as transgender at the meeting, said: “I'm encouraging you all to support policies that are inclusive of transgender students and to show your support for transgender students and transgender faculty. This isn’t pseudoscience, this isn’t some sort of ideology. This is people’s lives. This is civil rights.'

I disputed the fact that TRA has anything to do with civil rights, and that invoking that noble political movement, which required enormous bravery and sacrifice from Black people (and some of their non-Black supporters too), is what I consider appropriation of an oppressed minority's suffering and struggle for rights that had been denied them. For this is not about infringing their rights. It is any possible infringement on other people's rights by them that worries us.

So if they wish to be talked to as females instead of males, and be allowed into female spaces while having male or female bodies, that is definitely a safety issue for others, including, in this case, the parents of other children. There are parents who are legitimately concerned that their children may be being enticed into believing they are the opposite sex, even beginning transition, without their consent.

Artichokeleaves · 13/08/2021 10:44

That weasel word 'inclusive' must be challenged, each and every time.

It is not 'inclusive' to exclude females from female spaces so that male people can use them.

There are other words for that. 'Inclusion' is not one of them.

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 13/08/2021 10:43

@happydays2345

Ugh religion
My, that's constructive.

Modern European thought, as I understand it, owes a lot to the Christian belief in the sanctity and value of the individual.

And whenever people say, 'Ugh, religion!' I remember who runs the food bank and the credit union in the small town where I live, and who has been the driving force behind the charity which provides after-school care for a mix of children, some of them with complex needs, other with no additional needs at all.

Yeah. The churches, and one especially outstanding elderly lady who is a devout Christian but never, ever forces it down your throat.

Religion, like politics, can be bad. But it doesn't have to be.

Sorry, derail. But I'm so sick of the fashion of doing down religion when the evidence of my own eyes tells another story.

WeeTorag · 13/08/2021 10:22

happydays2345
Ugh religion 

People have the right to practise religions whether you personally approve of them or not (and I'm an atheist).

I agree with you @ScreamingMeMe

WeeTorag · 13/08/2021 10:20

Please, if you have the time, try and watch some of this. It's the Loudon County School Board meeting from Tuesday. Apart from a handful of overly emotional TRA parents, the rest are overwhelmingly against the trans policies. They are incredibly articulate and honest in their objections. They give the board HELL to be honest but I was in awe watching them. Kara Dansky also makes an appearance around 1 hr 50 as well. The spiteful bastards on the board still voted the policies in the next day. Unbelievable. Some of the parents came from a religious POV but most didn't. I respect them regardless.

Thank God I don't live there. I have a friend who does but although I raised it with her recently, she didn't reply and I don't know what to make of it. I'm worried for her 2 girls.

Hope the link works.

ScreamingMeMe · 13/08/2021 09:29

@happydays2345

Ugh religion
People have the right to practise religions whether you personally approve of them or not (and I'm an atheist).
LazyViper · 13/08/2021 09:09

Maybe it's simple to see the issue in such black and white terms as good vs. evil, but that is how it is for many practicing Christians.

Gender ideologues also see it as a matter of good and evil. It’s hard to see how this clash will resolve. Currently all faiths seem to be being replaced in public life by gender ideology.

Tesla73 · 13/08/2021 09:06

And further evidence of how US schools are pushing this without public consultation or knowledge

www.dailysignal.com/2021/08/12/im-a-teacher-parents-should-know-that-school-districts-hide-an-ideology-of-unlimited-gender/

Tesla73 · 13/08/2021 09:04

Theres more on the school boards decision here

www.dailysignal.com/2021/08/12/virginia-school-board-adopts-transgender-policy-amid-parents-protests/

happydays2345 · 13/08/2021 08:05

Ugh religion

LastSummerHere · 13/08/2021 07:51

The policies sweeping across schools, government and so on are completely at odds with Christian belief. And I honestly don't think people of faith are given enough or even any consideration, except on this board where the needs of women of faith to spaces away from men are often centred. Often they get waived away as if of no consequence, but to people of faith, they are of a great deal of consequence.

People in general won't care to hear it, but gender ideology is utterly anti-Christian and in fact, in Catholic doctrine, would be considered satanic. It is impossible for practicing Christians to promote it and the fact that these policies are so widespread, is putting people of faith into an intolerable situation where they are being forced to comply with something they see as inherently evil and against a God they want to serve. I can fully understand why she quit. I would do the same. Maybe it's simple to see the issue in such black and white terms as good vs. evil, but that is how it is for many practicing Christians.

Gender beliefs should never trump other beliefs but they do.

Betheanne · 13/08/2021 07:31

I saw this on a reddit sub that celebrates people losing their jobs r/byebyejob or something similar. I track who gets cancelled and how strong the evidence is against that person.
The school situation in the US is in a crisis. The political landscape is so much more complicated because you have to factor in the evangelical Christians, Abortion rights, and Trump running again.
All that said, I live in the UK but I am an American that votes in Virginia. I used to vote Dem without question. I am currently visiting family and popped over to sign my name to the recall initiative. My number 1 priority is recalling this school board. They are totally out of control. The children haven't been in school, they are preaching politics, they are seeped in queer theory and critical race theory. They are calling everyone that objects White Supremacist agitators. I'm on left and I'm not ok with it.

Aparallaxia · 13/08/2021 06:41

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