#AskRapeCrisisScotland

No the mud sticks where it should!

Except it doesn't, these will be used as a beating stick to tell everyone how awful GC's are.

Well the times comments aren’t taking any prisoners.

If those examples of Tweets were sent to ERC then they need to be strongly condemned. Without getting into the rights and wrongs of this the mud sticks a lot more on the GC.

[quote FOJN]Article in the Times published at 12, I'm not a subscriber so can't share the full article.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bigoted-people-may-be-challenged-comments-by-trans-head-of-edinburgh-rape-crisis-sparks-controversy-xdcpfr0cv[/quote]
Thank you for posting

If anyone has a share token for that Times article it would be much appreciated.

The condition of accepting a male to provide that service when you have been attacked by a male is fucking cruel. To be then told you must accept that male as a female or the service will include you being educated out of that view is barbaric.

To be fair, I don't believe there's any current prospect of that happening in Scotland - I've not seen any evidence that they currently have males actually providing services while claiming to be women.

I think that might be how Rape Crisis Scotland would justify claims of "fearmongering"

However it is clear that MW and others surrounding them desperately want it to be the case that males can do this, are trying to make sure the law permits it, and I can only assume they are actively looking for males to fill such roles.

So it's a case of "this isn't happening, so don't worry (but we're trying to make sure it happens as soon as possible)".

Article in the Times published at 12, I'm not a subscriber so can't share the full article.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bigoted-people-may-be-challenged-comments-by-trans-head-of-edinburgh-rape-crisis-sparks-controversy-xdcpfr0cv

You're right. You're so right. I need to step away for a while. My blood pressure must be through the fucking roof!

It's all they have, lies and hyperbole.

Sorry, haven't RTFT, but what's really awful is seeing TRA tweets about how women are trying to close down rape crisis because we don't want transwomen to receive services?????

Is this deliberate, this LIE about what's actually being said? It doesn't matter if it's deliberately evil or just brainwashed stupidity, I suppose. The effect is the same.

Interesting that Rape Crisis Scotland insinuated that it was the fault of groups like Women and Girls Scotland that women were now afraid to access their services and not their refusal to offer female only help.
mobile.twitter.com/WG_Scotland/status/1424806794908610570

A biological man in charge of a rape crisis centre for women?

No thanks.

It’s complete denial that a traumatic response to male violence can exist.

I don’t understand how any competent politician can think that is acceptable.

(‘Competent’ here acknowledging that sadly some politicians don’t even attempt to appear competent, but e.g. Nicola Sturgeon is supposed to believe she can run a country.)

I feel it’s fair to ask what possible motivation a person could have for wanting to be able to carry out an intimate medical examination on a patient against their will anyway.

So do I. And anyone endorsing that.

But very simply, MW is using their own personal circumstances for professional gains and for that reason MW should be sacked.

Yes.

Usually when you type in a trending hashtag it will autocomplete for you. That stopped happening yesterday for this hashtag.

Yes I noticed that too.

They’re telling the patient to put their feelings aside and validate and prioritise the feelings of the practitioner. It’s wrong on so many levels.

If we apply this to blind women, elderly women, disabled women who are utterly reliant on intimate personal care, why should these already massively disadvantaged women have to validate that any male can now identify as a woman for their own personal reasons.

CatherinaJTV - A transwoman is a man. That's the difference between a transwoman and a woman.

Access to services after trauma should NOT come with conditions

Absolutely.

Access to services after trauma should NOT come with conditions.

The condition of accepting a male to provide that service when you have been attacked by a male is fucking cruel. To be then told you must accept that male as a female or the service will include you being educated out of that view is barbaric.

But very simply, MW is using their own personal circumstances for professional gains and for that reason MW should be sacked.

MW objected to women who have suffered life threatening or life changing injuries to the vagina, anus, rectum, cervix and other parts of their body at the hands of violent men being allowed to request a female person to examine these injuries in the immediate aftermarth of that attack by men. MW wanted men who insist others refer to them as a woman to be able to do this and require that the injured woman not be allowed any boundaries from men when being examined for injuries caused by men if that is what the men want How is this not further assault?

Yep. Not only that but she felt so strongly about it that she left the SNP over it. Because it could prevent trans-women doctors from carrying out medical examinations.

I feel it’s fair to ask what possible motivation a person could have for wanting to be able to carry out an intimate medical examination on a patient against their will anyway.

MW objected to women who have suffered life threatening or life changing injuries to the vagina, anus, rectum, cervix and other parts of their body at the hands of violent men being allowed to request a female person to examine these injuries in the immediate aftermarth of that attack by men. MW wanted men who insist others refer to them as a woman to be able to do this and require that the injured woman not be allowed any boundaries from men when being examined for injuries caused by men if that is what the men want How is this not further assault?

I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but I experienced it last night and saw others commenting on it on twitter.

Usually when you type in a trending hashtag it will autocomplete for you. That stopped happening yesterday for this hashtag. Without sounding all conspiracy theorist about it, there's a reason that happened. "Rape crisis" seemed to be picked up by the algorithm for trending for a while today but that also seems to have disappeared. It could be as it doesn't qualify as a trend anymore but who knows?

There are a lot of people talking about it in support of females (ridiculous I have to say that instead of women). Still only a handful (of the usual suspects) are posting an alternative standpoint. The majority view by far is that this is all terribly wrong.