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MaudTheInvincible · 10/08/2021 19:17

Is trending at number 1 in the UK at present. I haven't been around all day so I'm not sure what this has happened in response to and came here to find out, but there aren't any threads. Heart breaking reading these stories and the effects on rape victims who can't access support services because they've been excluded by male-centring policy.

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Jaysmith71 · 10/08/2021 20:50

"A trans woman is a woman"

In order for this statement to be true, you need to supply a defintion of 'woman'

ClaraMumsnet · 10/08/2021 20:49

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/08/2021 20:47

@CatherinaJTV

A trans woman is a woman, a man is a man.
No.. that doesn't answer what I asked.

Think again.

Materially how can you support your ideology?

It really is up to you to prove your assertion. You are the one trying to change our understanding of the basics of human reality.

MaudTheInvincible · 10/08/2021 20:46

So many threads on twitter popping up about this man and how he got his job.

what positive comes from this pile on for a young woman who got raped and is looking for help right now? You are creating barriers and there is nothing constructive about this

Why does this sound like 'look what you made me do'? I absolutely agree the decisions made which promote the validation of men at the expense of rape victims is a barrier to them receiving the support they need.

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Doyoumind · 10/08/2021 20:46

I see the monitors have arrived.

Apparently only the 'usual transphobes' are commenting Hmm

I've had a good look at the hastag and there are a tiny handful of posts supporting the comments of MW and over 11k voicing concerns.

So sick of everything to do with women's rights being framed as transphobic.

twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1425143601449816065?s=19

CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/08/2021 20:45

Are we still not allowed to say that, even after Forstater?

Or is it that we aren't allowed to say it about a specific person?

CatherinaJTV · 10/08/2021 20:45

A trans woman is a woman, a man is a man.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/08/2021 20:42

you are talking about a trans woman, not a man. I'd ask but you'd wield the ban hammer!

Ah, go on!

What's the material difference between a transwoman and a man?

ArabellaScott · 10/08/2021 20:40

If you support the CEO of a rape crisis centre talking about how 'bigots' need to be challenged in the context of rape counselling, then you will have no problem with Mridhul Wadhwa's words trending and being shared far and wide. Let everyone hear what Mridhul has to say.

Congressdingo · 10/08/2021 20:36

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PronounssheRa · 10/08/2021 20:34

Biologically and without a GRC, legally male. MW has themselves admitted that they have no GRC therefore no legal recognition of their gender.

If you distort language in the way you have the awfulness of what MW said is obscured.

Beamur · 10/08/2021 20:33

If you think what the CEO is saying here is fine and dandy then you're part of the problem too.

AssassinatedBeauty · 10/08/2021 20:30

It really is not the people objecting to this person's comments about women and trauma that is creating barriers to women accessing Rape Crisis Scotland. They are managing that all on their own. I would think that the CEO's words have managed to alienate a huge percentage of women who have heard or read what they said. It's clear that I wouldn't be welcome there or treated without judgement if I ever needed the services they offered.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2021 20:30

You are talking about a trans woman, not a man.

We're talking about a male person who appears to have very little respect for women, judging by their previous actions and statements. In their own words.

CatherinaJTV · 10/08/2021 20:28

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CatherinaJTV · 10/08/2021 20:25

@Ereshkigalangcleg

It's interesting that you call feminists a cult, when there are much better uses I can think of for the word.
what positive comes from this pile on for a young woman who got raped and is looking for help right now? You are creating barriers and there is nothing constructive about this. As said, Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre have been life saving for young women I know. Will go and donate some money and hope that this pile on will backfire and lead to more support for them.
ArabellaScott · 10/08/2021 20:24

No, women are ignored at best. Or we get insults, smears, sneers and more patronising messages about how we ought to feel, act, think, talk, etc ...

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2021 20:24

Good. Keep it trending. Let everyone see what is going on. Let women hear what The Guilty Feminist thinks, and what Mridhul Wadhwa thinks.

Yes, exactly. Enough of this misogynistic nonsense.

KittenKong · 10/08/2021 20:24

They have allowed someone to take on a senior position who should never have been offered the job I’m the first place (it’s been pointed out but their fingers and on their ears). Not to mention some pretty horrible comments they have made with regards to victims.

They have attacked women time and time again when they have asked for single sex facilities.

Now women are bigots who need to change their thinking (so a lecture before help?).

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2021 20:23

It's interesting that you call feminists a cult, when there are much better uses I can think of for the word.

CatherinaJTV · 10/08/2021 20:19

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MaudTheInvincible · 10/08/2021 20:17

Thanks all. I'll have a read of that thread. I hope it keeps trending. The responses show the clear actual harm caused by these cruel anti-women policies. Not that I expect anyone from the Scottish government to notice. I mean, these are only the stories of women after all, with the wrong, cunty type of lived experience.

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Doyoumind · 10/08/2021 20:17

I wonder what the outcome will be, but I worry there will be no impact whatsoever.