I think I've figured out why the Guilty Feminists feel guilty...

interesting part of Helen Joyce’s conversation with Julian Vigo on her Savage Minds podcast

Thanks Pennine, will check it out

However companies house does

Thank you! With about three exceptions, most of them seem very young.

These 'feminists' are despicable people. They are as far from 'kind' as it is possible to get.

I agree. I refuse to be gaslighted that these women are feminists, and women who actually care about women's rights are bigots simply for not believing in their religion.

To understand what's driving these males, why they do it, what the impact is and categorise the conditions so that the public know what they're dealing with

There’s an interesting part of Helen Joyce’s conversation with Julian Vigo on her Savage Minds podcast where HJ is talking about what drives some of the key players in gender ideology to bend the world to their view of themselves. HJ described who many of these players have excelled either in business/the military and have been very, very driven people prior to transition. Couple that sort of personality with the “bravery” it takes to transition signals a cohort of men that are used to getting their own way and being incredibly assertive.

Ah, got it, so its womens job to look after everybody, because of course they dont have any specific issues due to being women. This person is a very powerful TW who knows how to get exactly what they want, so I really dont think prioritising their needs comes first in the scheme of things.

Tje Scottish charity register doesn’t keep details of trustees (unlike the charity commission)

However companies house does

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Kemah Bob:
I think it's a moment to check your privilege. And I think we've gotten to an interesting place in society where we're acknowledging the structural inequalities that women face across the board. And I think it's a struggle for some people to acknowledge that someone's had to face something, perhaps even more challenging than you have. Because my life is the hardest. And I think it's such a cop out, I think we just have to do better across the board. And I know you were saying kind people, but also mean people, mean trans people deserve care too.

Pointing out the trajectory of the argument here - the host has said that women must prioritize the TW because they're kind and they've suffered.

The response here is to start by calling women privileged and to conclude that we must not only prioritise the 'kind' transpeople but the mean transpeople, because transpeople deserve care too.

But obviously 'mean' women shouldn't expect quarter. And 'mean' women are the ones defined as not accepting males as women.

These 'feminists' are despicable people. They are as far from 'kind' as it is possible to get.

I hope that if any woman gets raped, the most important thing she remembers is to always use the correct pronouns at all times. #lovewins

She can centre men as much as she likes. What she can't do is call it feminism.

The biggest con in history is when men persuaded women that feminism is about men's rights.

Indeed.

I've been unable to find any information regarding ERCCs governance on their website...
Who are the Board members?

She can centre men as much as she likes. What she can't do is call it feminism.

The biggest con in history is when men persuaded women that feminism is about men's rights.

But not mean women, I guess. They can be "educated" by the ideologues.

Deborah Frances-White:
We need a massive rethink as a society. And feminism needs a big old rethink on this because if we are not there to protect the most vulnerable members of our group, what are we there for. As you said before Mridul, there is a social licence to treat trans people very badly, to rule them out of employment, to speak in rude ways about them, and to them, for street harassment, there's a social licence, we need to revoke that licence. It is the job of feminism to revoke that licence, and to step up, and step forward and say, these people are our sisters, these people are our siblings, and we need trans people to be protected. And we take that first step today. And if we have some discomfort because of the power structures that raised us, and that evolved us and evolved our thinking, that are in themselves structurally violent, then we need to do that work on ourselves, to get more comfortable with doing the right thing, and protecting kind people who want a break and desperately need a break from our society.

Kemah Bob:
I think it's a moment to check your privilege. And I think we've gotten to an interesting place in society where we're acknowledging the structural inequalities that women face across the board. And I think it's a struggle for some people to acknowledge that someone's had to face something, perhaps even more challenging than you have. Because my life is the hardest. And I think it's such a cop out, I think we just have to do better across the board. And I know you were saying kind people, but also mean people, mean trans people deserve care too.

If anyone has the slightest feeling that these women are feminists in any sense of the word, read it. They are the furthest thing it is possible to be. You'd get as much sympathy as a woman wanting a female only space from a men's rights group. DFW basically implies that raped women need to acknowledge that they haven't had it as hard as MW and MTF trans women, and she says that trans people face more violence and women argue about that and say they don't, but that's not true because we can "make the stats say what we want"

Chucking around the word "violence" about women's words like it's woke confetti.

Wow that transcript. Jaw droppingly awful.

Yes thanks @NecessaryScene for that very clear explanation of 'stack thinking '. Very useful .

Word of day. Apply this to my government

Never mind - got it.

*I'd like to see research on males demanding entry into female trauma and health services. Such as:

• rape centres and helplines
• breastfeeding classes
• menstruation
• menopause
• female-only health conditions - endometriosis,
• miscarriages
• stillborns

To understand what's driving these males, why they do it, what the impact is and categorise the conditions so that the public know what they're dealing with*

I would agree completely. This seems like a very important question.

Not read the thread but can I have a direct link to the podcast? I can't seem to access it.

Yeah that’s what it come to

Women in Scotland provdiding services to women and girls who have been sexually assulted too afraid to speak

Where’s our first minister sturgeon feminist to her fingernails not speaking out about this ?

Women and girls no longer important?

[quote littlbrowndog]Very good piece here from forwomen Scotland

Explaining the background

forwomen.scot/10/08/2021/the-real-crisis-at-rape-crisis-scotland/?fbclid=IwAR0F_4HKh_UtdbAe_zmEPMQowOsUr0_vvPeKZZ3rer7nCYFNEKcdRJE9t4E[/quote]
They also, shockingly, revealed that local services were frightened to state publicly that they could guarantee female only services because of the reaction from those who want to prevent women accessing such a service. We are sure that such people include those in the sector, like Wadhwa, as well as in Government.

This is what it's come to.

Wow Thank you necessary that's a hugely helpful explanation.