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I think I've figured out why the Guilty Feminists feel guilty...

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 09/08/2021 15:19

@Glinner sent this round today:

"(From a thread by @Forwomenscot) The CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis has said "Sexual violence happens to bigoted people too. But if you bring beliefs that are discriminatory, expect to be challenged on your prejudice. Reframe your trauma" Apparently, survivors are to be "educated" in this service."

The CEO is Mridul Wadhwa, a male person who does not have a GRC and who believes that rape victims orgasm.

The podcast twitter account is blocking everyone who says "WTF?" etc

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AtlasNeverShrugged · 09/08/2021 21:18

Oh, Deborah, you could have done a "Caitlin Moran" and just ignored the whole fiery debate. You could have just pretended that you didn't know what feminists were discussing.

But no.

You chose men.

BatmansBat · 09/08/2021 21:13

So if a rape victim doesn’t think the right way, they get called a bigot and get no help?

And if they react (after rape) with fear towards someone they perceive to be male they are a bigot?

And this male born person, who is in charge of rape victim support tells these victims that rape victims often have an orgasm?

Is this a joke?

upthefrogs · 09/08/2021 21:11

That guilty feminist Twitter thread is so weird. My ‘dad’ is not my ‘dad’ so when it comes to love I definitely don’t think biology trumps anything much, but that doesn’t make me think people can change sex. I don’t understand at all why she would think that’s equivalent or relevant. Genuinely baffled. How is it relevant?

Abhannmor · 09/08/2021 21:10

This vile and insulting comment illustrates perfectly why Mridul Wadhwa is hopelessly unsuited to this position. As for the Guilty Fauxminist...words fail.

MiladyBerserko · 09/08/2021 21:10

Saying raped women need to 'Reframe their trauma' is blatant trolling by a male who has gained this job by dishonesty. Who in this position publicly wonders if raped women experience orgasm.

DFW supports this trolling of raped women.

We all knew about MW.

DFW, women wont forget what you are.

BuffysBigSister · 09/08/2021 21:07

@DryHeave

I’m listening. So much talking and so little being said. And each has the most incredibly annoying voice as well...
That sums it up exactly for me. Such superficial posturing and mutual admiration. None of them have thought for one minute about the matter in any depth. They have never thought through the implications. Iknow some women who have worked in this field for years and their compassion for women and their depth of knowledge puts this lot to shame. And yes, the voices, like nails on a fucking blackboard
Hoping4second · 09/08/2021 21:03

I volunteer at a homeless outreach. Some of our service users are high, some are violent, some hate women. And yet we don't "educate". That's not the brief. We give food, clothes, and practical help. We've had to temporarily exclude people from the premises due to behaviour that endangered us and other service users but it was always temporary. Welcome back as soon as they are no longer a danger.

I am flabbergasted that this individual sees giving help to vulnerable people at the most vulnerable time of their lives as nothing more than an opportunity to preach and convert, on pain of denying service. That is despicable. I don't approve of drugs (strong opinion there) but would never lecture a service user on their drug use. First, they have other priorities. Second, my opinions are irrelevant! It's not about me! Third, in what universe do you deny service to someone in need based on their beliefs.

The world has gone mad.

littlbrowndog · 09/08/2021 21:03

This says it all

I think I've figured out why the Guilty Feminists feel guilty...
WarriorN · 09/08/2021 20:59

@PlayYouLikeAShark

This is an excellent thread from Twitter from a man who counsels rape & assault survivors.

Twitter thread

Now there's a man who understands boundaries and safeguarding.

How the fuck MW got the role and how the fuck the women around them enabled MW to do so I will never know.

I feel like working in this area for some is simply a badge of honour for their CV. And narcissistic power play for others.

littlbrowndog · 09/08/2021 20:59

Cross with you erish

Fuck my country is shite at moment

littlbrowndog · 09/08/2021 20:58

Very good piece. Here.

wgscotland.org.uk/reports/

Rape crisis Scotland are saying there are harmful online discussions going on

Well when we see someone working in that sector saying that bigoted women have to reframe their trauma

That is harmful rape crisis Scotland. Harmful

DryHeave · 09/08/2021 20:55

I’m listening. So much talking and so little being said. And each has the most incredibly annoying voice as well...

FloralBunting · 09/08/2021 20:55

It's because she's so nice. That's why she's a 'guilty' feminist after all, because she doesn't want to have feminism make anyone uncomfortable, especially her.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/08/2021 20:54

This is so disgusting, honestly. What it means is that there is no rape crisis support for women in Edinburgh. A service has been taken over by this sociopathic ideologue and rape victims will not be safe to seek help there any longer.

With uncanny timing Rape Crisis Scotland appear to have gone on a DARVO counter attack against GC feminists because people said nasty things to them on Twitter. Not seeing any death threats or rape threats though. Just anger.

https://twitter.com/rapecrisisscot/status/1424767097108934662?s=20

Over the weekend we became aware of coordinated and harmful claims circulating about Rape Crisis services in Scotland, stemming from a twitter thread that questioned the provision of women-only spaces in Rape Crisis Centres.

It's apparently directed at Women and Girls In Scotland:

twitter.com/WG_Scotland/status/1424806794908610570?s=20

Mrsjamin · 09/08/2021 20:51

DFW has let us all down, horribly. I have no idea how she goes from "my adoptive mother is my mother" to "transwomen are women". How could you deprioritise the most vulnerable women at their most vulnerable time. Makes me sick!

BlackAlys · 09/08/2021 20:45

I feel fucking ill reading this.

MiladyBerserko · 09/08/2021 20:36

I have no doubt DFW will be reading this.

I have no idea how you can look at yourself in the mirror. To support this message that raped women are bigoted for being frightened of men, that it is bigoted to request that males are not included in places where they seek help to recover from the violence they have suffered at the hands of men. I have no idea why you think this is ok.

The 'Guilty Feminist' was funny at times. But it's not funny now. Nor in any way feminist.

You are no friend to women. You are guilty of subjecting women to further pain and trauma. I can't say anymore without getting banned.

Why? Why are males more important than females? Why?

Jorrris · 09/08/2021 20:35

[quote GCAutist]@jorris I was astounded when I saw that. It’s virtually the same as MW was saying - you don’t get support if you don’t come round to our way of thinking. I thought the point of therapy was to help relieve trauma not bloody create a deserving and undeserving patient where the latter gets sent packing if they don’t conform.[/quote]
Yes it is. This is very concerning. We all need to take action over this.

FloralBunting · 09/08/2021 20:35

Slight tangent, but one of the church run quasi-professional counselling services I went to as part of so called 'conversion therapy' started by getting me run through an extensive personal history and repent of anything they identified as 'sinful' to enable me to really 'get the most healing' from the service.

This feels very like that.

PlayYouLikeAShark · 09/08/2021 20:35

This is an excellent thread from Twitter from a man who counsels rape & assault survivors.

Twitter thread

WarriorN · 09/08/2021 20:33

Precisely:

I think I've figured out why the Guilty Feminists feel guilty...
GCAutist · 09/08/2021 20:31

@jorris I was astounded when I saw that. It’s virtually the same as MW was saying - you don’t get support if you don’t come round to our way of thinking. I thought the point of therapy was to help relieve trauma not bloody create a deserving and undeserving patient where the latter gets sent packing if they don’t conform.

EishetChayil · 09/08/2021 20:31

I guess this is what happens when you let a male run a rape crisis centre. Who'd have thought, eh.

Jorrris · 09/08/2021 20:23

@GCautist

I found a screenshot - it’s not TRA specific but on the same theme by radical therapists network
What the actual fuck?

This movement is just going to lose any support they ever had. Their days are numbered.

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