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I think I’m going mad….

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Iootraw1 · 07/08/2021 21:48

I’ve absolutely had enough of my family bringing up ‘mum’s views’ (which I’ve learnt to keep completely private from them due to previously accusations of bigotry’), and then when I say a single thing in response,, accusing me of being ‘obsessed’ with it and not keeping it to myself!

I feel like I’m going mad. Husband saying he doesn’t know why I’m so obsessed with trans matters and I should keep to myself - I do! I don’t want to share with them because they don’t agree and don’t want to hear it.
Ever since the first time I tried to bring up and got shot down my him and kids I decided I would never mention again and wait for them one day to find out for themselves and be peaked.

But Just once again tonight in response to their accusations (they brought up subject not me) I tried to explain briefly why it opposes women’s rights and homosexual rights and got quickly turned upon. I’ve bought Trans by Helen Joyce now and will just tell them to read it next time (although will no doubt get condemned for buying a ‘transphobic’ book and they will refuse to read it) I feel really down, I can’t even have my own personal opinions and thoughts now without my very own family trying to eek out of me what ‘I really think’ and nose at what I’m looking at over my shoulder (I follow Glinner and Posie and Mars). I’ve bought headphones so they don’t hear it and never share any of it. I have to clear my history in case they search it.

It’s like some weird dystopia we’ve all been forced to enter. I even mentioned the olympics tonight in my defence and they still they said that I imagine all of this and it’s not really happening.

What will it take for they and the general public to wake up and at least listen to women’s concerns? I feel so upset tonight. 😩

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FloralBunting · 08/08/2021 12:14

Have you emptied the laundry basket yet?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/08/2021 12:13

After all the misogyny and homophobia on display this morning, this has cut the deepest

I was going to say vouch for Floral ... and then realised that actually...... I couldn't Grin

BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 12:13

@FloralBunting

And for the record, I absolutely support women being able to use the same means to challenge slander and libel against them as men do.

Not surprised the poster pushing sexism and homophobia doesn't, though.

How is it "sexism and homophobia" to allow trans people live their lives the way they want to?
TalkingOutYerArse · 08/08/2021 12:12

Bingo card complete. Was just waiting on 'literal'.

FloralBunting · 08/08/2021 12:11

And for the record, I absolutely support women being able to use the same means to challenge slander and libel against them as men do.

Not surprised the poster pushing sexism and homophobia doesn't, though.

ScreamingMeMe · 08/08/2021 12:10

[quote BluebirdsSong]@ScreamingMeMe
You say libelous shit about trans people all the goddamn time.[/quote]
Examples please.

ScreamingMeMe · 08/08/2021 12:10

@MrsOvertonsWindow

Faints at the thought of women being allowed to challenge misogyny, hatred, rape and death threats. Women will be asking for the vote next Confused
The pretend victim complex is strong with this one.

Women are just suing TRAs left, right and centre for 'criticism'. This is definitely a thing that is happening.

BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 12:09

@ScreamingMeMe
You say libelous shit about trans people all the goddamn time.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 08/08/2021 12:09

Yeah Tinsel Helen Joyce is indeed Irish but somehow I suspect Bluebird is lacking in understanding of the difference between Britain & Ireland and the looong history there or the oppression of Irish ppl

FloralBunting · 08/08/2021 12:09

@MrsOvertonsWindow

And I'm sure that Floral is not JKR Grin
After all the misogyny and homophobia on display this morning, this has cut the deepest.
ScreamingMeMe · 08/08/2021 12:08

Wish trans people had the power of wealthy British white women that can literally silence any criticism by wielding institutional power against their critics.

Literally?

Oh really tell me more.

Jorrris · 08/08/2021 12:07

No, but you endorse wealthy, privileged individuals like JKR using their wealth and power to silence their critics.

JKR is fab isn't she :-) she speaks the truth that burns your ears. And best of all, you can't cancel her.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/08/2021 12:06

Faints at the thought of women being allowed to challenge misogyny, hatred, rape and death threats. Women will be asking for the vote next Confused

ScreamingMeMe · 08/08/2021 12:05

#NoDebate, right? It's so terrible when people are silenced, right?

Wish trans people had the power of wealthy British white women that can literally silence any criticism by wielding institutional power against their critics.

ODFOD with this disingenuous shite.

Libel is not a debating tactic. It's illegal. The legal system is for all to use. If I saod something libellous about Monroe Bergdorf, I'd expect her to do something about it.

No institutional power? You are having a fucking laugh! Stonewall and other trans organisations and their bad adviceare in most of our public organisations and major companies. The Equal Treatment Bench Book is just one example of the sway they have - over our legal system ffs.

Women have had to crowd fund to put right these abuses of power. FOTTFSOF with your rubbish.

Jorrris · 08/08/2021 12:05

Wish trans people had the power of wealthy British white women that can literally silence any criticism by wielding institutional power against their critics.

As opposed to entitled middle class basement dwelling male teen whose never worked a day in his life. Yet think the world owes him something.

It doesn't. As you will discover.

BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 12:02

@MrsOvertonsWindow

And I'm sure that Floral is not JKR Grin
No, but you endorse wealthy, privileged individuals like JKR using their wealth and power to silence their critics.
Jorrris · 08/08/2021 12:01

@TinselAngel

Hang on is BluebirdsSong actually one of the OP's teenagers?
Could well be. Seeing as op hasn't been back.
MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/08/2021 12:00

And I'm sure that Floral is not JKR Grin

MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/08/2021 11:58

Sorry BluebirdsSong
I'm not spending any time educating someone with such regressive misogynistic views of women, mothers and feminism in the realities of women's lives and political activism.

TinselAngel · 08/08/2021 11:57

Yeah, the irony is indeed great, that you think you're the one being silenced, while threatening libel suits left and right and forcing people to delete their criticism of you.

I can vouch for Floral not being Helen Joyce.

TinselAngel · 08/08/2021 11:56

I mean if we're doing competitive intersectionality I'd say the Irish know something about oppression?

BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 11:56

@FloralBunting

Wish trans people had the power of wealthy British white women that can literally silence any criticism by wielding institutional power against their critics.

🤣🤣🤣

The irony.

Actuslly, that's sonething you could do. Basket of ironing.

Yeah, the irony is indeed great, that you think you're the one being silenced, while threatening libel suits left and right and forcing people to delete their criticism of you.
BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 11:54

@MrsOvertonsWindow

wealthy British white women Grin Grin

It never takes long does it?

Is that an incorrect assessment of the majority of GC thought leaders? Most prominent of which is a literal celebrity billionaire?
FloralBunting · 08/08/2021 11:53

Wish trans people had the power of wealthy British white women that can literally silence any criticism by wielding institutional power against their critics.

🤣🤣🤣

The irony.

Actuslly, that's sonething you could do. Basket of ironing.

TinselAngel · 08/08/2021 11:52

Isn't Helen, Irish?

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