I think I’m going mad….

[quote BluebirdsSong]@alkanet
"Dc are in a peer pressure situation and probably can't agree with you because it would mean social gulag for them."

Why, do you think the "peer pressure group" has hidden cameras installed in their house?[/quote]
No. They know it's all shite but cant say otherwise. Hence the term, peer pressure.

TWAW on no planet EVER. Ever. Ever. Ever.

Fact. Biology. Science.

But kids cant disagree these days. Problem innit.

@alkanet
"Dc are in a peer pressure situation and probably can't agree with you because it would mean social gulag for them."

Why, do you think the "peer pressure group" has hidden cameras installed in their house?

@Chickenyhead

Wow imagine being that person and having nothing better to do than hurt people on a Saturday night? Quite sad really. Poor man.

Haha! Yeah chicken. 'Takes one to know one'. And in this instance, hasnt a dandoo about women or the sisterhood.

No, you are not going mad. Dh has no skin in the game ( or so he thinks at the moment) so why would he be bothered. Dc are in a peer pressure situation and probably can't agree with you because it would mean social gulag for them. You have your own sense of integrity and a right backed up by law to believe in whatever you see fit.
Also, you may be Mum, wife, or partner but you are still an entire person in your own right. Just because you have these different roles doesn't give dh or dc the right to treat you like some kind of aberrant automation that needs reprogramming.

If they discuss it infront of you walk away let them listen to themselves in their cosy echo chamber

Why don’t you each pick a book, a video and an article that the other side has to read then discuss it after.

They can’t accuse you of bigotry if you are willing to learn but they are not.

One book = obsession

Do TRAs not read?

Wow

@Iootraw1
"I’ve bought Trans by Helen Joyce now and will just tell them to read it next time"

This will not exactly help dispel the notion that you're obsessed.

It's like the Chinese cultural revolution where young people were encouraged to harass their elders. If I were you I would refuse to discuss one more word if it with them. You have a right to a private life.

If anyone is curious about where some drive-by posts on this thread might come from, some googling will clarify matters.

Strikes me that your family have a well-developed sense of proportion and you could learn something from them.

Strikes me that you could learn a lot from the women here, if you weren't so obsessed with your own agenda.

Sympathies OP. Most of us who have teenagers know this stage. The faux superiority and dismissal of vows that don't accord with theirs.
As Chickenyhead suggests, ensure you've your own privacy and space for your beliefs. This is an intolerant ideology that brooks no opposition and teenagers are mere fodder for the exploitative adults involved.

Oh and kindle app is your friend, nobody in this house knows what I am reading. Ever.

Oh OP

I too am here 100% with a teen who has this week told me they are trans and I am the worst because I can't stop being GC.

If they bring it up again tell them to do their own research, your journey is your own to make.

If they ridicule you, ask them if that makes them feel better about themselves to humiliate you?

Make space for your own beliefs and your own privacy. They wouldn't like it much if you invaded their privacy, maybe they need a reminder.

I would just say 'I'm not discussing this with you' and repeat as necessary.

The fact you are having to delete your browsing history in order not to be hounded or 'educated' is really worrying and really sounds like coercive behaviour.

Fifteen and eighteen are hard years in terms of children who know everything.

I've an inkling that I know the answer.

Maybe you can turn this round, put the pressure on them.

Put up a few women's rights posters. Tie a few suffragette colour ribbons around the place. Place a few pro LGB stickers and postcards around. Don't talk about it, just do these things.

If anyone from your family mentions them accuse them of being obsessed with the subject. If they criticise them ask why they're against women's rights. Never mention trans even if they do - stick to women's rights and LGB rights. If they try to counter this with trans arguments again accuse them of being obsessed. Argue positively for women's and LGB rights rather than negatively against trans demands.

You never know it might work, and it will probably make you feel better.

Strikes me that your family have a well-developed sense of proportion and you could learn something from them.

If you want your own perspective on what's happening OP, I would recommend you listen to this archived episode of In Our Time from BBC Radio 4:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000q9b6

The parallels are so striking it will reinforce your belief that there's a difference between who can browbeat the most and who is actually right.

Maybe try the thing you do with toddlers, leave the room when they start. Don't give it any attention.

I also wouldn't be doing anything nice for them either, why would they want transphobic old mum doing stuff for them when they could be doing it themselves? Bet they don't mind spending all your transphobic money or eating all of your transphobic food.

They don't have to agree with you but they could do without being so damn rude.