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Edinburgh Harry Potter Tour

116 replies

Cukku · 07/08/2021 19:21

Ah terrific, they've denounced JK Rowling (to whom they owe their existence) and are donating part of their takings to Scottish Trans Alliance:
"Many of you may be aware of JK Rowling's recent tweets concerning transgender issues. We have been very saddened and dismayed by these and do not condone the views she expressed in any way.
It’s a difficult time to be a Harry Potter fan for many but we sincerely wish JK Rowling’s views not to diminish our appreciation of the books and their messages of inclusion and tolerance."

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StandUpStraight · 08/08/2021 15:01

I agree lastsummer. It’s all very well trying to engage people in debate and being open to persuasion by logical argument, but at the end of the day so much of this genderist nonsense is espoused by people who are either blindingly stupid or intellectually dishonest. And I don’t care if it hurts their feelings to say so.

MondayYogurt · 08/08/2021 15:00

iT sHWould BE mADe a HaYte CWiMe!

Grin

Leaving gum under tables should also be made a hate crime IMO

Jaysmith71 · 08/08/2021 14:58

Methinks someone does not even know what a 'hate crime' is in UK Law, not a particular offence but any offence aggravated by hatred of one of the protected groups, including those with gender reassignment.

LastSummerHere · 08/08/2021 14:56

@Viviennemary

Good. Sick to death of Rowlings anti trans stand. It should be made a hate crime.

The stupidity of the mad genderists is just too much...I can't take it!🥴

MingeofDeath · 08/08/2021 14:45

Vivienne?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 08/08/2021 14:01

@Viviennemary

Good. Sick to death of Rowlings anti trans stand. It should be made a hate crime.
And yet Vivienne I bet you couldn’t name a single transphobic thing she said

Because there aren’t any

midgemagneto · 08/08/2021 13:51

Les make it simple

Leave the crime aspect out

How and where does jk express hatred ?

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 08/08/2021 13:40

@Viviennemary

Good. Sick to death of Rowlings anti trans stand. It should be made a hate crime.
Lol
ScreamingMeMe · 08/08/2021 13:38

@Viviennemary

Good. Sick to death of Rowlings anti trans stand. It should be made a hate crime.
Please could you expand on what JK Rowling has said that is anti trans? And could you use JK's own words, not something dreamt up by Katy Montgomerie or similar? TIA!
EightiesRobot · 08/08/2021 13:37

A hate crime to stand up for vulnerable women and children? While also expressing compassion for people with dysphoria? You want to declare women to be a valid target for abuse while exploiting their work? There is a name for that. The authoritarian mindset of gender identity ideologists is really disturbing.

ScreamingMeMe · 08/08/2021 13:36

@Lizzie523

There's also an article in The Skinny this week about shows to see at The Edinburgh Fringe - the journalist is promoting a Harry Potter themed show and talks about JK being out of style now - she can speak for herself.

Their attitude is hardly a surprise given that the film editor tried to cancel poet Jenny Lindsay.

There was also this:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3602996-Edinburghs-The-Skinny-magazine-publishes-defence-of-fuck-up-terfs-tweet

PrincessNutella · 08/08/2021 13:35

It is JKR's message of inclusion and tolerance that is in the books.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 08/08/2021 13:29

Which bit of what JKR said is the hate crime exactly?

Viviennemary · 08/08/2021 13:26

Good. Sick to death of Rowlings anti trans stand. It should be made a hate crime.

Rhannion · 08/08/2021 13:23

I’ve just emailed them so let’s see if I get an answer. I certainly won’t recommend them to any visitors.
The tours appear to be tip based unless you book a private tour.

merrymouse · 08/08/2021 08:21

It’s completely bonkers. The books weren’t set in Edinburgh and the films weren’t filmed there, so the only connection to the city is JKR herself.

Sophoclesthefox · 08/08/2021 08:08

Stonking hypocrisy.

“We’d like to continue to profit from the work of JK Rowling, who as well as creating the fictional world that we now use to make money, has also done us the enormous service of not cracking down on our unauthorised use of her intellectual property. However, we need to tell you that we think she’s horrid and wrong, and we dislike her very much indeed, while continuing to profit from her work. Thank you”.

It’s all bullshit anyway, there’s any number of fantastical claims swilling around Edinburgh of “this is where she got inspiration for x” or “this is where she sat when she wrote y”, and she’s on record as saying most of it is nonsense. Doesn’t stop grifters like this crew, though.

PigeonPants · 08/08/2021 05:50

Where have they B E E N??????

Prime time for performative tantrumming a reasoned and persuasive ethical critique of JK Rowling’s audacity in tweeting tweets that somebody else wouldn’t have tweeted was some sixteen months ago. If the situation has been so dire, why and how have PotterTrail stayed silent so long?

And where’s PotterTrail’s denunciation of the rape and death threats directed against Rowling, and other outspoken feminists in Scotland? Of the shoring up of a toxic misogynist culture? Of the silencing of women? Of the normalisation of rape and sexual violence?

How long do you have to wait to decide that these things are (also) wrong, PotterTrail?

Gingerkittykat · 08/08/2021 03:22

Grab a wand and join your robed guide on the original tour in Edinburgh designed for Harry Potter fans! You'll discover magical locations that inspired characters and scenes in the series, visit places where JK Rowling wrote the books and even learn a spell or two along the way

Hypocrites!

Gingerkittykat · 08/08/2021 03:00

@Cheshirewife

I don’t see why they need to stop running the tour. A donation to a suitable charity seems like a sensible way to support a cause they believe in. Difficult to see what’s wrong with that.
If they truly believe JK Rowling is transphobic then they should stop promoting her books and profiting from her work. I wonder what percentage of their profits they keep for themselves?

I hope JK Rowling is either getting royalties from them using her characters or sues them for copyright infringement.

Helleofabore · 07/08/2021 22:59

Sometimes unpleasant people come up with great works.

Sometimes unpleasant people come up with crap posts.

FloralBunting · 07/08/2021 22:55

Spacey?

Makes a fucking change from Hitler, I suppose.

But is just as fucking arse bearing, so you crack on with that bullshit. I find it tremendously helpful when people go straight for nuclear options, cuts out all the legwork of pointing out the absurdities.

Rhannion · 07/08/2021 22:51

@Cheshirewife

Sometimes unpleasant people come up with great works.

Spacey is another example. You might not like the person or share their views but you can still enjoy their work.

Are you having a laugh? You can’t compare JK to a sleaze like Spacey!
littlbrowndog · 07/08/2021 22:44

Lol they don’t charge and they are dead sad that they have to do tours celebrating that well known transphobic JK Rowling

Cripes must hurt them so hard they have to do them tours yet crying inside

You know what. As adults just don’t do the tours. Fuck off and do something else

And stop leeching off the work off a woman who you obviously hate

Fuck off whiny fuckers

nauticant · 07/08/2021 22:11

It's posts like that that remind me this is a long game and eventually it will default to common sense when in hindsight the activities of the trans activists will look like some kind of collective insanity.