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Lionel Shriver in the Times

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Igneococcus · 06/08/2021 18:38

On purity spirals and trans:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d8219be4-f6c9-11eb-8f01-2c678acbb979?shareToken=dd94dd81997c944a6778434967fc9416

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cariadlet · 06/08/2021 19:41

I love Lionel Shriver's books but have been avoiding her newspaper articles, interviews with her etc for the last couple of years because she usually annoys me so much. I might need to be a bit more open minded; that's a really good article.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/08/2021 19:23

Lionel's article is really excellent. The comments underneath don't disappoint either.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/08/2021 19:22

Well AgnesNaismith - in the eyes of the deluded, words are literal violence so maybe...... Confused

Jaysmith71 · 06/08/2021 19:21

www.amazon.co.uk/Trans-When-Ideology-Meets-Reality/dp/0861540492/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&crid=2W4U88Q0UC3GI&keywords=trans+helen+joyce&sprefix=trans+helen%2Caps%2C179&tag=mumsnetforu03-21&qid=1628274019&sr=8-1

Click on the book and you can read the first chapter and a half for free.

(PS: This "Lionel" is a girl with a boys name? Must be Trans...)

AgnesNaismith · 06/08/2021 19:17

So erm I’ve not read Trans by Helen Joyce yet as I’ve taken a few months to detach. Ready to get back in and went to Amazon to buy before sending a copy to dcs headteacher. It is listed under ‘psychology & violence’, off topic I know, is violence the correct category???

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 06/08/2021 19:13

[quote Igneococcus]On purity spirals and trans:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d8219be4-f6c9-11eb-8f01-2c678acbb979?shareToken=dd94dd81997c944a6778434967fc9416[/quote]
archive version: archive.is/pHvTQ

Signalbox · 06/08/2021 19:08

Thanks OP.

This is so true...

"Further, young people are currently cast into a hell of obligingness. Their parents probably took drugs themselves, are cool with premarital sex and often endorse much of the “woke” agenda. How’s a poor kid to rebel? Fervent embrace of the rage for gender swapping offers a rare opportunity to separate from their infernally permissive, infuriatingly simpatico parents."