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Woman's Hour - again

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Ifyourefeelingsinister · 06/08/2021 14:36

Tweet from Woman's Hour this morning about a possible new treatment for 'people who struggle with heavy periods'

It really is something when Woman's hour can't even name women. They are getting proper ratioed in the replies though.

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334bu · 11/08/2021 19:34

Same reply to me despite the fact that I specifically complained about the tweet.

marplemead · 11/08/2021 19:23

I've had a reply to my complaint. It reads:

'Thank you for contacting us about a tweet from the Woman's Hour programme.

We’ve shared your feedback about the wording of the tweet with our programme team.

The item on the programme itself referred to women, and occasionally used other language to reflect the full range of experience which Woman’s Hour listeners share with us.

We continue to monitor all feedback we receive to make sure Woman’s Hour represents the breadth of its audiences and is a place for discussion of a variety of viewpoints and experiences.'

WarriorN · 07/08/2021 08:31

I'm using my holiday clearing out of crap time to catch up on wh and I have to say that EB was very snide about someone texting in to suggest it changed its name to peoples hour. Also query if that listener was being facetious.

(Awks moment when ds 8 caught a bit on misandry and asked what it was. Managed to steer towards sexism and discussion of that.)

JulesJules · 07/08/2021 08:16

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NiceGerbil · 07/08/2021 03:35

Just looking at WH Twitter.

V recent tweet. Girls?!
Kayley is 31!!!!
Can't find info about Hannah.

Calling a 31 yo who competes in sport a girl is shitty. She's an adult who has worked and worked for years FFS.

'On today's podcast: Will the girls who’ve smashed it in the new urban sports of skateboarding and BMX at the #Olympics inspire a generation of girls to take up sport? Skateboard We chat to BMX freestyler Kayley Ashworth and skateboarder Hannah Shrewsbury bbc.in/3ywzDXo'

NiceGerbil · 07/08/2021 03:17

Ok so either.

The woman in woman's hour means gender ID
In which case they sound not talk about periods at all because the prog means Identity as a woman which excludes transwomen, non binary women, women of other gender identities or none.

The woman in woman's hour means sex.
In which case they sound change the name to hour for those in the group of humans with vaginas.
Or similar.

As with all this stuff.

Put your money where your mouth is.

Anything else is cowardly and hypocritical.

Babdoc · 06/08/2021 22:33

Thanks, Melroses, fab ratio! So encouraging to see the huge pushback against our erasure. Women have had enough of this crap, and resistance is spreading.

Melroses · 06/08/2021 20:38

twitter.com/BBCWomansHour/status/1423580214605533184

Currently 1.3K : 134

Babdoc · 06/08/2021 19:15

Anyone got a link? I’m not on Twatter, but I do love to read a nice ratio!

marplemead · 06/08/2021 19:10

I've also complained.

FluffyBattleKitten · 06/08/2021 18:20

Done. I wonder if anyone of note actually reads the complaints?
They don't seem to have learned from Twitter, do they?

FreezerBird · 06/08/2021 18:11

@QueenStromba

I don't know what the hell my phone is playing at. Let me try that again.

Maybe they just wanted to include girls and didn't want to use the word females as it's been coopted by MRA types? Am I being far too generous?

Then say "women and girls who struggle with heavy periods".

Sorted.

(It's nice to see someone else's phone turn on them, I really thought that was just mine.)

FloralBunting · 06/08/2021 18:04

If they call it 'the menses' they could cover all bases - reference menstruation and be clear about the group they're most concerned with.

Abitofalark · 06/08/2021 18:02

You can email or text Woman's Hour, as they never stop telling us. I have no time for the 'BBC' Complaints unit (actually Capita) with its form filling and laborious process, ending with some standard format response that doesn't address the actual thing you complained about and / or tells you that they are right.

Tibtom · 06/08/2021 16:55

Far too generous

QueenStromba · 06/08/2021 16:45

I don't know what the hell my phone is playing at. Let me try that again.

Maybe they just wanted to include girls and didn't want to use the word females as it's been coopted by MRA types? Am I being far too generous?

QueenStromba · 06/08/2021 16:44

Maybe they just wanted to include girls and dish by was by to use the word females as it's been coopted by MRA types? Am I being far too generou?

Tibtom · 06/08/2021 16:19

I'm surprised they haven't yet changed the name to Menstruators Hour.

Or ‘Mens’ Hour’, for short?

Perfect! Grin

KittenKong · 06/08/2021 16:16

I have no garden.

I was a brave little kitten tho’ (may need some counselling later). I did ring them up several times and leave rude messages.

Mycatismadeofstringcheese · 06/08/2021 15:54

@KittenKong

I’ve just been listening to gardeners question time. Won’t someone please think of including the builders and painter & decorators?
It shouldn’t just include trades but must include all hobbies and pastimes: Knitting, cycling, golf and playing the harmonic nose flute.

Any actual gardening content must be flagged with a warning so as not to discriminate against people who don’t have gardens.

Vargas · 06/08/2021 15:52

Complaint form done. Not the first, and not very confident it will be the last.

KittenKong · 06/08/2021 15:50

I’ve just been listening to gardeners question time. Won’t someone please think of including the builders and painter & decorators?

Melroses · 06/08/2021 15:28

They just need to call it "People's Hour", make sure they do not talk about anything that isn't "inclusive" and they will be fine.

Sorted.

The only people who will complain won't exist 🤷‍♀️

334bu · 06/08/2021 15:27

Thanks for that complaints link. Have just complained.

DentonsFringeArnottsWaistcoat · 06/08/2021 15:25

[quote OhHolyJesus]I'm surprised they haven't yet changed the name to Menstruators Hour.

Luckily it's very easy to complain:

www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint[/quote]
Or ‘Mens’ Hour’, for short?

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