Trans prisoners in Ireland: update

All 3 in Limerick. The bed capacity is 28 (using the overflow rooms). It’s one of the most overcrowded jail in Ireland. Still a significant %

Are all 3 of those trans women housed in Limerick prison? If so, according to the Wikipedia statement that it has capacity for 20 female prisoners, that means that 15% of its occupants are trans.

There are 3 TW in Irish Women’s jails. BK, child rapist and a TW who fractured a man’s skull after drinking (this person also has lots of other charges pending).

A 4th TW is housed in the male estate as this TW doesn’t have a GRC. Convicted of handling and making CSA images. There is no reason in our law that would prohibit them from obtaining a GRC while in the men’s estate.

I have no faith in the governments ability to adequately protect or care about women's rights in Ireland. They have demonstrated time and time again that they are not up to the job.

The problem is there are very few alternatives on the ballot these days. It's like picking between a piece of shit and a lump of crap .

I sat in a meeting once where a LA person talked about how unfortunate it was that the baby P disaster had 'escaped' into the press, and how this was viewed as an LA failure. He said these incidents happen all the time in all LAs, and mostly such 'failures' are intentionally and carefully kept from publicity.

When these things get into the press there's uproar, outrage, calls for things to be done, expensive inquiries and white papers written. The status quo is threatened.

This is so true:

It is our contention, and belief, that Tusla’s desire to hide the Barbie Kardashian story from public view has little to nothing to do with child protection, which is their remit. Barbie Kardashian, after all, is an adult – and was an adult at all times when her story was covered by Gript.
In their letter to us, they provided no rationale to support their assertion that there is a public interest in keeping the story secret.
No. This appears – to our eyes – to be much more about an arm of the state, faced with defending an action that most citizens would find disturbing and absurd – placing a biological male who wants to rape women in a prison with women – deciding to abuse the legal process to hide the facts of an embarrassing story from the public.

I'm so angry at the government and its various agencies for all perpetuating this crap.

Well I only checked 2 tbf!

The other one had a little more than Google but not much.

Just thought- anyone got access to dark web? That has anything, not like eg Google where they hide links.

Although, it seems the actual sites were told to take down so that wouldn't work. Which is way more effort than approaching Google and maybe a couple of others. The fact they went direct to sites shows they had thought about it and were prepared to spend time searching all pieces out from multiple sites and then approaching them all individually.

Which means it was massive importance to them.

Even though it's not their remit at all.

One item- archive.is/Ns0Pj.

Note that I was on threads when BK started gaining attention and I can confirm that most pieces have vanished from the search engines.

It's out there somewhere I'll try to find it.

Oh sorry, I meant about the accurate reporting of this person's identity in the media etc.

I don't know under what authority TUSLA performed this massive overreach. It would be interesting to read the letter they wrote.

'NiceGerbil

It's hardly surprising the public don't know when the government are actively suppressing reporting on it.

The problem is we have Self ID law enacted in Ireland, and so this facilitates all sorts of nonsense.
It even says on the notes of the legislation that changing your gender (by filling out a form) for all legal purposes changes your sex confused.

So they can then keep up the charade with legislation to back them.'

What law exists saying govt agencies should act outside their remit and order reports about (some?) criminals to be deleted/ removed from sites?

as long as no misgendering I can't see any justification for that at all.

Anyone want to pop over to feminism chat and the thread about green policies?

I've written some essays 😕

*wish

I really with the Green Party would focus on climate issues, not this crap!

I fear we are gone so far down the rabbit hole of ridiculousness, it will take a huge effort to even turn it around.

So they can then keep up the charade with legislation to back them.

Finding poking around!

'RR511 The Green Party reject any stigmatising of asexual and aromantic people and recognise that asexuality and aromanticism are part of the diverse range of human experience. The Green Party would expand the Equality Act to be inclusive of asexuality.'

I have never had it explained about this.

If you don't want to have sex then you don't.
I mean not tricky.

No one gets abuse for walking down the street without a partner.

It's hardly surprising the public don't know when the government are actively suppressing reporting on it.

Pommie69

No, most do not know, but this was purposefully done. There is a document by Dentons, Thomson Reuters and a Trans group that sets out how to achieve self I.D.
Irish trans activists achieved self ID by:
Keeping press coverage to a minimum, latching onto a more popular reform and by lobbying individual politicians .

www.iglyo.com/only-adults/

I think most ordinary people know that don't they?
NO
my jab nurse was appalled.

She kept saying with a look of horror on her face "I had no idea it was as bad as that."

NO they really do NOT know it.

This is the only more detailed info I can find. The info is in accord with wider reporting at the time (now been vanished).

archive.is/5rdyH

When the authorities are actively working to hide any info about a highly dangerous criminal. Then that doesn't shout yep we're confident our policies etc are brilliant does it.

The other thing, remembering when this all started.

BK was in care. Unmanageable. Violent. Sexually assaulting women around them. No sense of remorse, displayed little emotion at all except apparently relating an attack to a MH professional.

When turned 18 I think it was. No option in law/ etc except to release into community.

Local police so worried they issued a warning in the area. That's when it got picked up.

If this was the remit of TUSLA then they could have acted to minimise this risk surely.

But no, nothing legal anyone could do.

And yet it is their business to write to websites hosting the story and tell them to remove it?

And it's worked- very little when you search. Nothing since the original hearing when remanded into custody in women's prison back in 2019 I think it was.

Yes BK is an an adult, TULSA are a child protection agency so it is odd that they wanted to close down discussion on a person no longer under their care.

Here are court transcripts, available online, this person appealed a special care order made by a child protection agency.

www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5da049e34653d07b2518ff8a

No there are ?? about what it had to do with them. Over 18.

The only thing strange about TUSLA getting involved is I thought BK was 19 or so, legally an adult then. Or is it because he was under the care of the state as a child?

Anyway the Irish media are fully TWAW and so crimes committed by TW are reported as women for the whole articles, so it's hard to even find out information.