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Censored for stating facts - guardian olympics blog

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HermioneKipper · 04/08/2021 15:28

I’m so angry and feeling like the world has gone mad.

The guardian olympics liveblog has commented about the women’s 200m being amazing and that Christine Mboma and Beatrice Masilingi ran great races. Plus adding an article from Seb Coe saying that this proves the new rules are working.

I tried commenting underneath but all my comments are being deleted despite stating facts and saying nothing abusive. All I said was that these athletes have xy chromosomes and that these levels of testosterone would result in women being banned for doping. Perhaps saying that it’s not a fair playing field and medals have been snatched from female athletes who’ve trained all their lives caused me to get deleted 🤷‍♀️

It feels like we’ve entered the black mirrorverse and a really bad joke.

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PickUpAPepper · 04/08/2021 22:08

Is that the only outlet we have in this ‘democracy’? Only my (female) MP is one of the sell-outs. Until I can get out of this area, which isn’t likely, that’s me shut up. Angry

littlbrowndog · 04/08/2021 22:02

Keep going keep going don’t fret. It’s a war not a battle

Write to ur mp or MSP

Keep pressure up.

Rember the suffragettes they were tortured in prison beaten and abused

Keep going. Don’t give up,

littlbrowndog · 04/08/2021 22:00

We do care hermione. Talk to ur mates

Family anyone you know

I have found that no one in real life believes this shite

It’s getting out there for sure

And use the guardian for free. Fuck the guardian

Bit I feel your pain for sure

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 04/08/2021 21:52

Bill and Melinda Gates behind the Funding???

PickUpAPepper · 04/08/2021 21:51

For all the changes and equality that women are told we have apparently gained, all we see everywhere is men in power and positions of authority. The only time - or very nearly only, Merkel excepted - women have position is through selling themselves as sex symbols, whether in sport, music, film. That’s what I see, and of course teenage boys glued to the internet are growing up with that entrenched.

PickUpAPepper · 04/08/2021 21:47

Don’t care, or don’t see anything that they can do about it? Women are powerless: the only women that aren’t are those who are prepared to deliberately sell out other women and poorer groups. This hasn’t happened overnight, and I think the political and cultural tendencies to greater exclusivity, of poorer groups as well as women, all play a part.

HermioneKipper · 04/08/2021 21:33

@littlbrowndog I think I just mean in general.

The guardian are obviously a bunch of dicks who’s news coverage I shall no longer be reading.

But how every woman I know or everywhere isn’t outraged by this I simply don’t understand. Opportunities and futures are being STOLEN in plain sight and no one cares. It’s so very depressing

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littlbrowndog · 04/08/2021 21:28

Nothing hermione

They are a shite newspaper

I dunno anyone that reads it.

Get the recipes and let the misogynistic men have a chat with each other as they love it

littlbrowndog · 04/08/2021 21:22

@Ereshkigalangcleg

You and I use the Guardian website in a strikingly similar way, littl!
We do 💪💪💪🏌️‍♀️🏌️‍♀️🏌️‍♀️
HermioneKipper · 04/08/2021 21:19

I’ve written to them asking them to explain why my comments were deleted when I said nothing abusive or disrespectful. Not holding my breath waiting for their response.

My blood is boiling and for some reason most people I know don’t seem to care or want to discuss this. How can people not care about women’s opportunities and futures being stolen.

I AM ENRAGED. What can I do?

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SmokedDuck · 04/08/2021 20:10

I had a very similar experience on the CBC website within the last year, I made a factual point on a story and they deleted it. I has foolishly assumed no one had mentioned it in the comments because they weren't aware, but that was not the reason I now suspect.

It really is shocking, my grandfather was an old school journalist and when I was a girl, they would go out of their way to print the most contrary letters about the pieces they ran, they considered it an obligation.

Chickenyhead · 04/08/2021 20:05

What has happened to the education system? Seriously.

GNCQ · 04/08/2021 20:03

Misogynistic tradition?
What, fucking hell, women being able to compete at all in sport is misogynistic..... Who knew.

Christ, I feel as though we're back in the middle ages but with internet porn addicts included.

QuattroFormaggi · 04/08/2021 19:10

@HermioneKipper 🙄🙄🙄 Good Grief

HermioneKipper · 04/08/2021 19:02

I mean just look at this reply. I get deleted for posting actual facts and this absolute bullshit is allowed to stand. What a farce

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transdimensional · 04/08/2021 17:57

Guardian and Observer journalists can (sometimes) report accurately and make valid commentary in their articles (and even editorials) which would be deleted if an ordinary person made it below the line.
This has always been the case.
What I take from it that there is an army of overzealous moderators/censors employed to moderate the comments section, whereas the decision about what to allow in an actual article goes to actual editors.
You could try submitting your comment as a letter to the editor (there's no guarantee).
But yes, the overzealous censorship of online comments there has long been a disgrace.

MedusasButterDish · 04/08/2021 17:48

Interesting that Sean Ingle managed to lay out tge terms if the trans controversy reasonably well here www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/aug/02/laurel-hubbards-olympic-dream-dies-under-worlds-gaze, almost as though the "Comment is free, but facts are sacred" were reversed! The Grauniad probably know that hardly anyone reads the paper all the way through anymore, so the cherry-picking readers will be satisfied with comment minus news...?

Belleager · 04/08/2021 17:29

@oldwomanwhoruns

So Seb Coe is down the rabbit hole too, is that what you said OP??
Having tracked down a bit more of his statement at the Telegraph, not too impressed with Coe.

www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2021/08/04/seb-coe-defends-athletics-testosterone-rules-never-going-satisfy/amp/

It's about "keeping people in" the competition, apparently. Strangely, the Guardian quotes his more equivocal lines. Still, he's defending a system he takes credit for, so not such a surprise. Shame though.

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 04/08/2021 17:19

It's worth remembering that although the Graun is owned by the Scott Trust, it isn't exactly unbiased, as it has a number of other sources of income.

see here under 'partners'.

They've taken over $600,000 over the past two years from the Open Society Foundations, who are all in favour self ID - see here

So whilst they are owned by the Scott Trust, it's worth bearing in mind that they are not, um, entirely uninfluenced by external sources.

Babdoc · 04/08/2021 17:16

The Times had a nice dig at the Guardian in an article today.
Entitled “JKR and the secret birthday”
“There was a surprising omission in the Guardian’s birthdays column on Saturday, which failed to note that JK Rowling had turned 56.
Some wondered if this was to do with the author’s belief that women don’t have penises, which has upset some Guardian readers. Had she been cancelled?
The section editor was less than convincing in his response. Space was tight, he said, choices have to be made.
And so they dropped the most successful author on the planet.
Still, at least they found room for Dean Cain, the 1990’s Superman actor, Victoria Azarenka the world no 15 in tennis, and the jazz guitarist Kenny Burrell!”
Priceless.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/08/2021 17:06

You and I use the Guardian website in a strikingly similar way, littl!

oldwomanwhoruns · 04/08/2021 17:04

So Seb Coe is down the rabbit hole too, is that what you said OP??

Belleager · 04/08/2021 17:04

Not good reporting. But the way I read Seb Coe, he's saying that Mboma's performance in 200 shows that they made the right decision about 400. And he suggests that decision could be extended to other events, and that the 200 will be coming under scrutiny. And that the 800 is seeing the right people winning now it's not open to athletes with the specified DSDs.

So not as depressing an article as I expected.

The headline's misleading (shock).

Freespeecher · 04/08/2021 17:04

Just me or is 'Power to...' rather a Marxist formulation?

I'd start thinking I'd gone down one too many YouTube rabbitholes but I have heard more than a few activists using 'Rest In Power' for RIP (where's that eye roll emoji when you need it?)

littlbrowndog · 04/08/2021 16:25

Best thing about the guardian is you can get the recipes and read restaurants reviews. Then ignore their pleading for money. Love it

Don’t support women you can do one if you are getting any cash off me