#nothankyou

Signalbox yeah that answer was great.

I'm on the app on my phone which seems to be ridiculously slow today. Posts don't seem to come through until way after they've been posted so I didn't see the (many) references to the article until after I'd posted a link. 😕

Sarah Robles has one hell of a tattoo - a suffragette holding up the Olympic Rings. It’s a cracker.

@ iMombie here's a good link that explains the history of the suffragette colours www.maharam.com/stories/rawsthorn_suffragette-colors

@iMombie I believe they are used to identify oneself as being a GC feminist, based on the suffrage colours. Although hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me can confirm

archive.is/Tmdbk

Great article from Spectator Australia came up in my Google feed www.spectator.com.au/2021/08/laurel-hubbard-no-thank-you/

Those might be the Suffragette colours, iMombie.

It was beautiful and, I feel, a very considered response.
Just an aside…Im new to Twitter and I know a lot of users use colours/emojis to project their identities/beliefs. What do the 💚🤍💜 mean? I see them a lot and Googled it but it wasn’t clear. Or am I just reading too much into coloured hearts?!

I knew Birdy Rose would have a shirt design soon @Catlover77 so I will be buying that one come payday. It'll go nicely with my Magdalen Berns 'I'd rather be rude than a fucking liar' shirt, also designed by her.

I was on an assertiveness course years ago and was told “no thank you” works well went turning down a cheeky request from a pushy person.

You’re acting as if they are offering you a gift rather than being demanding. You know they are not giving you a gift. They also know they are not, but replying as if offering to do you the favour changes the dynamic.

It can be a very useful phrase.

Fantastic to see it deployed here.

I’m not sure you can read too much into a refusal to comment. Emily has been supportive of Hubbard. Although she can obviously only speak for herself so perhaps the other contestants feel differently. And perhaps Emily would feel differently if Hubbard had prevented her from getting to the olympics in the first place.

That was a very lukewarm and carefully worded statement. Emily is an experienced athlete, she'll know that by the time she's 43 she won't be competative against women in their late teens or early 20's, she'll know her best competative days are well behind her. She'll know how impossible it would be for a woman to take a 15 year career break and come back as a weight lifter in her late 30's and sky rocket to becoming one of the best in the country. She'll also know how much hate women get for pointing out the bleeding obvious.

Her sillence when being asked the same question after she's won her medal says everything.

Emily has said as much as she can say without getting herself in any trouble

I certainly read it that way. If she'd truly supported Hubbard she would have said so. She's been complimentary about some of her other competitors.

I think they must have discussed it beforehand, otherwise we'd have seen them exchanging glances, and maybe one of them starting to speak then checking themselves to see if the others agreed etc. Admittedly I've only been able to watch it once (old and dodgy laptop) but it looked to me like a considered response. They will have expected the question, I'm sure.

Bah pressed send too soon

Emily has said as much as she can say without getting herself in any trouble

The British weightlifting lifting association & Emily herself are funded by sport England. Sport England are stonewalled to the eyeballs, a condition of being funded by sport England as an organisation is that you comply with sport England’s policies on LGBT inclusion which we’re drawn up in partnership with stonewall

TLDR any athlete not publicly toeing the sport England line would find themselves at risk of losing their funding

The IOC have rules we all have to abide by. The only person’s performance that I can control is my one

Translation: them's the rules whether I like them or not.

Inference: I don't like them.

I wonder if they discussed it beforehand, knowing that question was bound to come up? I thought Emily's answer was diplomatic, nudging the focus back onto the IOC rules - maybe there was safety in numbers in the press conference?

Well you can read it into it that they weren't interested in fawning over Hubbard, as it sounds like Emily was put on the spot in the same way in that interview. They would have been expected to show their support for "progressive" MTF trans inclusion in women's sport.

'Failure to provide a variety of gender non-conforming girls with powerful female role models is one of the most unforgivable consequences of gender theory because it encourages girls to medicate gender variance. '

I’m not sure you can read too much into a refusal to comment. Emily has been supportive of Hubbard. Although she can obviously only speak for herself so perhaps the other contestants feel differently. And perhaps Emily would feel differently if Hubbard had prevented her from getting to the olympics in the first place.

fitnessvolt.com/emily-campbell-defends-laurel-hubbard/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

“She’s a human being and she has feelings and she’s qualified for this competition fairly like everyone else. The IOC have rules we all have to abide by. The only person’s performance that I can control is my one,” Campbell said.

‘I’ve got to make sure I’m completely in control of that and I go out in the best shape I can and have no excuses.”

Pretending that a person with a receding hairline, hairy armpits and the bulge of a penis is a woman...

Only one of those things makes someone not a woman.

Good content but poor spelling in that article!

archive of the Spectator article: Laurel Hubbard? No thank youarchive.is/Tmdbk

Interesting backstory for Sarah Robles that adds to my admiration of her sporting achievements:

Sarah Robles, the woman who’s “no thank you” is now doing the rounds on Twitter, is an American woman of Mexican decent. Robles was the bronze medallist and has a deformity in her arm called Madelung’s deformity that leads to pain while she is lifting. She also has Polycystic Ovary Syndrome, a condition I have myself.
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The modern mythology that sex exists on a spectrum, means that many masculine women have to endure increasingly ignorant attitudes about their bodies. These attitudes limit the ability of girls to embrace the natural diversity that exists in women.

I'm increasingly aware of the co-opting of PCOS onto the alleged spectrum. I'm tired of this modern mythology that has no grounding in physiology.