Dove cheer on Hubbard.

Quinn is presumably not on T and so is competing in correct category- AOK.

"Maybe because there's nothing really controversial about Quinn? Quinn is a female, competing in the correct sex competition. Very few people care one way or another about whether someone is 'nonbinary' - 'gender' (or rejection of it) should be irrelevant to sports. "

Not so fast!

Has Quinn got blue hair?

I'm now visualising trolls under bridges trying to soap themselves up into being women 🤣

With companies like this, given their customer base. Every time it happens it feels like they are just trolling women to me.

I now look at Dove and think it's for men who like to play charades.

I don’t get how they can do this. How many women would look and say ‘yes thats me’?

I don't really know much about the controversy but I know loads of women are upset about it so it just seems odd to take sides in the debate when women are your target audience. Maybe they are trying to increase their market in the transgender market but I don't know if there are enough people who identify that way to make up for the number of women they will piss off.

Well - if you follow the ‘no pr is bad pr’ theory... didn’t work out so well to Gerald Ratner though did it?

Bit of a strange marketing move to support some thing so controversial.

Sorry to disappoint you looking for alternatives in own brands but often the own brand is made in the same factory. Not always and I don't know how to check where they are made.

Article about food from 2017

uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/big-name-firms-make-brand-products-raft-supermarkets-160230209.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFiHN4oKGR1TH2AvARqYOswJF-tqypEWBKYhFwyaMEuMCb-iDquSMnYrWYggEFUQTJHD_XH1e-d6OBLjRKvtIjHlRrSdVMLiRC8DBprG97bmP5FBDzePnyPlcTpvNw8L6p1b8j4M4Se_VRZLSa-j_Z3LlL4YRsVdDHZ4ndcL7q9R

My carer used to make soap as a hobby, maybe it's time he thought again about making it a business.

You can't just sell it because it needs to be certified and, as I understand it, that's for different recipes.

I have psoriasis and his soap is brilliant, you'd think soap would be harsh but his is actually soothing.

Dove
#NoThankYou

The transwoman golfer competing, correctly, in a male event is more worth supporting as a role model for trans inclusion.

What I don't get if they wanted to support transgender athletes, is why not Rachel Quinn, who actually got a medal as part of the Canadian football team, and didn't take the space from anyone more deserving? Why is it just Hubbard that is getting supported?

I wonder who makes Costco own? Their own brand items are usually made by ‘big brands’.

If you know anyone with a Costco card ask if you can go with them. If you want a sample I'll happily send you some to try?

YY.

There's no need whatsoever.

Massively contraversial.

Their main target is women.

It's nonsensical.

It's the fact they could've just said nothing. Why do these brands insist on showing how support for a controversial political opinion?

They really could've just celebrated another female shelter but they just need to pander, it's not s as if only pro-trans-athlete supporters use Dove, are they that stupid?

In the end this is about individual ethics.

I doubt (sorry) that enough will avoid these massive brands totally, to make a dent.

Taking a personal stance is always important though.

Though proctor and gable seem to have also been beaten by the woke stick.

Thanks @littlbrowndog @SusannaM @BoreOfWhabylon

I shall inflict my feminist boycotting on DPs underarms. Weirdly he only sweats from his head so its probably not needed anyway.

@HarryLimeFoxtrot

You are flipping kidding me!

I did search Dermalogica and 'trans' and nothing came up.

Well thats changed things for me. I will continue to use Dermalogica until the actual company Dermalogica itself says something which makes me boycott them directly.

I am going to have enough issues boycotting Dove let alone my beloved Dermalogica. Let the individual companies suffer I say. And when Unilever looks at their overall books - perhaps they as a higher body can dictate some sanity on their woke brands.

It actually gets incredibly difficult to boycott a brand (any brand, any reason) as so often they are interlinked with others. If you then want to go further and boycott shop brands manufactured by said brand it becomes even harder.

I don't use Amazon, that is fairly easy to achieve, some people on Twitter are boycotting Sainsbury's because of their advertising on GB News, that for most would be achievable, though maybe an inconvenience. Some items are easily substituted at a similar price point, however for many it can, financially, be an unachievable goal.

I'm not even sure of the point of my post, but sometimes just doing what you can do, given whatever circumstances you are in, is enough. (I think that's it, it's late, the sun has got to me a bit and I have a headache.)