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Radio 4 just now! Re trans weightlifter

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GiantToadstool · 02/08/2021 17:28

About 5.20? I think it is someone called Alison who is commenting on the olympics. Talked about horse eventing and then asked about weightlifting. Straight away said IOC need to do some research about "men who want to enter as women" , said it had been just talk of human rights without looking at impact on female sport, that Rugby did actual scientific study and found trans women to be 30%still stronger... that even the current weighlifter is 13 years older than women would be able to compete.

Just brilliant! Radio 4 person did wafdly noncommital move onto next thing but I was so impressed!

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nauticant · 02/08/2021 17:47

Obviously this happened on a day when it wasn't Evan Davis presenting, today is Carolyn Quinn, and if you listened carefully she seemed to be avoiding calling Hubbard a "woman" or "she". The sports reporter was Alyson Rudd from The Times who commented about how the IOC rules were done without much regard to actual science.

Men are already angry about this on twitter:
twitter.com/PlusTovell/status/1422232632222441479
twitter.com/soundpoet/status/1422234541046042628
twitter.com/celticbro/status/1422234332014469137
twitter.com/dan_wilkes/status/1422233303621455876

FloralBunting · 02/08/2021 17:47

Barking mad that this is stand out impressive, of course.

GiantToadstool · 02/08/2021 17:47

Ah fantastic! Can we send her our support!?

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Jaysmith71 · 02/08/2021 17:47

And presenter Carolyn Quinn mentioned 'openly trans' which rightly acknowledges the likes of the Press sisters masquerading as women in the past.

OldCrone · 02/08/2021 17:45

The woman talking about this was introduced as Alyson Rudd, who writes for the Sunday Times.

She said the IOC were going to "rethink how they allow men who want to be women to enter the games".

Thelnebriati · 02/08/2021 17:42

Its got a piece about The Samaritans and safeguarding as well.

Thelnebriati · 02/08/2021 17:41

Are you sure you didn't dream the whole thing? Wink

OldCrone · 02/08/2021 17:38

The programme is still on, so you can hear it here starting at about 17.20.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_fourfm

GiantToadstool · 02/08/2021 17:32

Oh wow as a sports reporter is well placed to talk about this. I wonder if she already has?

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GiantToadstool · 02/08/2021 17:30

And I don't know whoshe was but she certainly deserves our support as publically saying these things. (I was listening in the car!)

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CourageCallsToMe · 02/08/2021 17:30

I just heard this too - woohoo
And I agree the presenter was very cautious at the end of the report.

I don't suppose the reporter will be allowed to report on this again, though.
I think she is a sports reporter for the Times.